Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T21:18:12+02:00

No, just the sattelite being destroyed. The sat then could be rebuild in the station for a certain % of the intial cost and buildtime.
The Czar move is a different story. The sat and Yolo issue is crystal clear: a game ender rendered useless by smthg indestructible which is also way cheaper and faster to build.
Personally, yes, I think the Czar beam killing ASF is bad and should be removed entirely. And to all those "good micro" yadda yadda guys: the beam is meant to attack GROUND units. The Czar has another set of weapons which serve as aa. Losing dozens of ASF when passing a Czar is major BS imho.

Statistics: Posted by --- — 13 Jun 2014, 21:18

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T20:55:23+02:00

The base station destroyed?

If that is cheating, ground attacking the CZAR to suck in ASFs is cheating too. Although that is said to be 'good micro'.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 13 Jun 2014, 20:55

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T12:08:41+02:00

Please do not do this in-game. Imho this is as close as it can get to cheating (compare mass/e/buildtime needed for Yolona Oss and a satelite). I think it should be considered an exploit and be punished with a warning or even a ban.
I discussed this issue earlier with players. An alternative could be that the sat stops 1 nuke and gets destroyed while doing that.

Statistics: Posted by --- — 13 Jun 2014, 12:08

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T08:09:59+02:00

I think that the normal nuke goes high enough. Anyway Fernest, you can have a go at it now.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 13 Jun 2014, 08:09

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T08:05:39+02:00

Fernest wrote:
How do you position a satellite directly over a nuke?
Does it work for normal nuke launchers?

If you set it to 'Do Not Fire' you can just give it a move command above the launcher. I haven't tested it, but I don't know if there's a difference in trajectory height (Exp nuke and normal nuke). If it flies as high as the satellite it will work.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 13 Jun 2014, 08:05

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-13T04:02:51+02:00

How do you position a satellite directly over a nuke?
Does it work for normal nuke launchers?

Statistics: Posted by Fernest — 13 Jun 2014, 04:02

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T09:47:54+02:00

Aulex wrote:
well, it wasn't over my base, i dodged the czar crash and i didn't lose any mass while they wasted mass on nuke, so i'd say you shouldn't assume.

Don't tell me what to do.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 12 Jun 2014, 09:47

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T09:16:46+02:00

Plasma_Wolf wrote:
Is that really such an improvement? Your base still gets partially killed by the nuke and even if it doesn't, the CZAR crashes down on you. The wreckage is nice, because that stays there, but you still lose a chunk of your base.

The CZAR won't make you lose reclaim on most buildings, while a nuke will. Also the damage radius on a nuke is larger.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 12 Jun 2014, 09:16

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T08:15:40+02:00

well, it wasn't over my base, i dodged the czar crash and i didn't lose any mass while they wasted mass on nuke, so i'd say you shouldn't assume.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 12 Jun 2014, 08:15

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T07:50:28+02:00

Is that really such an improvement? Your base still gets partially killed by the nuke and even if it doesn't, the CZAR crashes down on you. The wreckage is nice, because that stays there, but you still lose a chunk of your base.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 12 Jun 2014, 07:50

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T07:42:45+02:00

I had a game where i blocked an incoming nuke towards my acu with a czar after my smd was killed

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 12 Jun 2014, 07:42

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-12T06:48:58+02:00

zeroAPM wrote:
is the only real use for the satellite too.

LOOOOOOL

No.

odin002 wrote:
Hello !

I'm just curious, does someone here have already killed a nuke missile(the t3 one, strategic missile) with its air or by an other way (without a strategic missile defense) ?

I don't use air for this, but I do use air to defend against T3 arty. Get ten-fifteen air factories making ints on patrol above your critical targets. If it's Aeon T3 arty, they'll almost never make it to your shields, they just blow up a bunch of ints with each shot.

Statistics: Posted by Mycen — 12 Jun 2014, 06:48

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-11T20:53:35+02:00

Some time ago we had someone here complaining that his SMD missle was "shot down" by an intercepter that landed with it's wind in the SMD building.

The best thing is to intercept nukes above the enemy launcher. You lose some air, but the other guy loses a base. Only when he's Seraphim the launcher survives (something a lot of people don't seem to know). A Seraphim nuke never damages it's own launcher.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 11 Jun 2014, 20:53

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-11T16:26:19+02:00

odin002 wrote:
Hello !

I'm just curious, does someone here have already killed a nuke missile(the t3 one, strategic missile) with its air or by an other way (without a strategic missile defense) ?

Gyle has a replay when the nuke hits a t2 transporter on its way down saving the targeted base.

Statistics: Posted by Herbert — 11 Jun 2014, 16:26

Re: Counter nuke with air ?

2014-06-11T16:08:20+02:00

Okay nice ! so this event can happen. I loved the video with the satellite, I feel sad for the experimental launch nuke...

Statistics: Posted by odin002 — 11 Jun 2014, 16:08