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Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T11:39:41+02:00

Obviously not every idea is balanced, but this is my point, clearly we are now at the point where it's time to have FUN with how much we can actually do, and not just in mods either!

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 15 May 2014, 11:39

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T11:36:32+02:00

Indeed, it's a fun idea, but you just build a t3 shield with 4 T3 pgens adjacent, and you have such a power overshot that the shield can no longer be destroyed. Everything else you build under them is indestructible?

Statistics: Posted by Elikian — 15 May 2014, 11:36

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T09:55:57+02:00

That is essentially an overcharge option on a shield. I like the idea, but it nullifies the power of the game enders

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 15 May 2014, 09:55

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T09:25:59+02:00

Krapougnak wrote:
The Cybran shield, for example, only got up and consumed energy when about to be hit by a projectile the rest of the time it is off, useful and cool.

Something like this would be cool for Nomads to make them more different, like shield consumes energy depending on what it's hit with
like if you have +50k energy it can hold against a mazor

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 15 May 2014, 09:25

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T07:45:21+02:00

partytime wrote:
The resizing slider is an interesting idea ... actually you could have a few sliders
- size of shield
- health of shield

All of which affects
- energy consumed by shield

Domino and Resin already did that in their mod 4DC they also included factional diversity shields.

The Cybran shield, for example, only got up and consumed energy when about to be hit by a projectile the rest of the time it is off, useful and cool.

Statistics: Posted by Krapougnak — 15 May 2014, 07:45

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T04:38:08+02:00

The resizing slider is an interesting idea ... actually you could have a few sliders
- size of shield
- health of shield

All of which affects
- energy consumed by shield

Which opens up a whole new thing that FAF never really had - configurable units. You could apply the same concept to t2 arty = fire rate and dps is configurable but also determines power usage. Once again, not sure if it belongs in FAF. Must be pretty hard to balance ... you probably just need to make the energy costs climb dramatically.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 15 May 2014, 04:38

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-15T04:31:37+02:00

Disclaimer: I'm not saying that it is a good idea to change shields at all, bit if you do, here are some other ideas. I'm totally unconvinced FAF should go this way but perhaps it would be nice in a mod.

A single shield might react differently to different weapon types. Eg:
- completely nullify and absorb beam weapons, converting them to energy that goes straight into your power storage (like reclaim)
- reflect lazer projectiles (either back at the source or just randomly away)
- have no affect at all on ballistic projectiles

Maybe to protect your base effectively you need to build two different types of shields right next to each other.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 15 May 2014, 04:31

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T23:42:14+02:00

The balance is now so good I think we should begin to think about things like this, interesting things, things which we can do purely to make things cool and different as long as they don't have a huge balance impact. However, I wouldn't want to do sweeping changes to all shields. So were I in charge, I'd leave the base shields alone, I think, but look at doing cool stuff to some shields. For example, ED5 could gain projectile reflection. The UEF shield boat could block Lasers and Torpedoes but let conventional munitions through with reduced velocity. Fatboy's shield could have a resizing slider. Seraphim's T3 mobile shield could have, say, a projectile chaos aura causing things which might hit at an oblique angle to refract away instead of making contact. We could do the same thing with the T3 Artillery, and Nukes.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 14 May 2014, 23:42

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T21:29:14+02:00

Crotalus wrote:
There´s an inverse relationship between knowledge about SupCom2 and common sense. The less you know about it the better. It's like X:Rebirth...

Hej, don't take it too seriously.

Statistics: Posted by da_monstr — 14 May 2014, 21:29

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T19:32:16+02:00

There´s an inverse relationship between knowledge about SupCom2 and common sense. The less you know about it the better. It's like X:Rebirth...

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 14 May 2014, 19:32

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T18:10:20+02:00

Crotalus wrote:
Seraphim
SupCom2

For posterity.

Statistics: Posted by da_monstr — 14 May 2014, 18:10

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T16:43:04+02:00

Haha, hmmm maybe I should try out Supcom 2 just to get some basic knowledge about it :]

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 14 May 2014, 16:43

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T16:38:38+02:00

There are no seraphim in SC2, that's why i said "aside from seraphim ofc"

Statistics: Posted by RK4000 — 14 May 2014, 16:38

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T16:33:33+02:00

I guess it's the logical race diversity with reflect and EMP. May I ask what Seraphim shields do in SupCom2?

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 14 May 2014, 16:33

Re: Shield diversity

2014-05-14T16:27:55+02:00

Crotalus wrote:
Oh, lol, I haven't ever played Supcom 2 or seen anything about it.

What I mean is making the real effect the same, preventing damage inside the shield. It would just be the visual effect that's different.

Funny, because everything you describe in your suggestions is 100% like SC2, aside from seraphim ofc ^^

Statistics: Posted by RK4000 — 14 May 2014, 16:27