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Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-07-18T08:54:06+02:00

Poch wrote:
AFAIK it has nothing to do with ALT-F4 ing since like everyone said it just pop up confirmation pop-up.
There is a quick exit option didn't check what it does, and didnt tested what happends if you kill process in task mgr maybe it triggers the timer.

From my personnal experience it is like this.

8 players game
everyone connected but 2 ppl that are connected through FAF proxy
one of them leave
Everyone has kicked (like intended) the leaver BUT the guy that wasn't connected to him.
That guy has a timeout window of ~45s before he is able to kick.

When you play with people on TS you start noticing it has nothing to do with alt-f4 and it seems more related with people not being connected.

Oh and btw, 99,99% of the time it makes replay desync at that exact time but a lot of you have noticed already.
I'd rather have working games than working replays but having both would be nice.

Is there a way to check before exiting FA if people are really connected or are connected via FAF proxy ?

Replay desyncs happened way before the proxy was in place.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 18 Jul 2014, 08:54

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-07-17T23:52:49+02:00

This is getting to be a real problem... and really annoying...

Perhaps if someone's ACU is dead there is 0 delay to kick? or something?

Zero can you figure something out ?

Statistics: Posted by Typo91 — 17 Jul 2014, 23:52

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-07-16T00:29:11+02:00

When the proxy crashes you also get funny things...

I too would like to know a way too see if Proxy wil be used.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 16 Jul 2014, 00:29

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-07-14T22:17:01+02:00

Lol, so, I'm telling each time it happens to everyone not to quit with alt f4, but it's not related at all? xD
oops

Statistics: Posted by odin002 — 14 Jul 2014, 22:17

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-07-14T11:04:37+02:00

AFAIK it has nothing to do with ALT-F4 ing since like everyone said it just pop up confirmation pop-up.
There is a quick exit option didn't check what it does, and didnt tested what happends if you kill process in task mgr maybe it triggers the timer.

From my personnal experience it is like this.

8 players game
everyone connected but 2 ppl that are connected through FAF proxy
one of them leave
Everyone has kicked (like intended) the leaver BUT the guy that wasn't connected to him.
That guy has a timeout window of ~45s before he is able to kick.

When you play with people on TS you start noticing it has nothing to do with alt-f4 and it seems more related with people not being connected.

Oh and btw, 99,99% of the time it makes replay desync at that exact time but a lot of you have noticed already.
I'd rather have working games than working replays but having both would be nice.

Is there a way to check before exiting FA if people are really connected or are connected via FAF proxy ?

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 14 Jul 2014, 11:04

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-11T01:12:36+02:00

There seem to be 2 cases. Sometimes when a person leaves, the game hangs for a while without eject screen. And sometimes the eject screen comes and one person has to eject, while for the rest the disconnect was automatic.
Alt+F4 gives a message asking you to confirm if you want to leave. That seems to be normal behaviour, so I would not expect a problem there?
Exiting through the Score button, after your death but when the game has not yet ended, might give the problem?
Did this problem exist already on GPGnet?
I assume indeed that exiting though the menu is always OK, but again this is only an assumption...

Statistics: Posted by ax0lotl — 11 May 2014, 01:12

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-11T01:03:53+02:00

Then only ctrl+k your ACU. Or better yet: first give all your stuff, then ctrl+k.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 11 May 2014, 01:03

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T21:17:04+02:00

When share is on, it's better to alt + F4, than to ctrl k + quit, because ctrl k kill your unit.
(if you need to leave the game, while still being alive)

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 10 May 2014, 21:17

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T21:08:35+02:00

ALT+F4, Exit Menu have exactly the same function.

I already try fix this but i need a test, i create a Mod for test my fix but never player test my mod-fix ...

Test my mod, is in my mod vault : XINNONY TRY FIX CORRECT DISCONNECT v2

Statistics: Posted by Xinnony — 10 May 2014, 21:08

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T21:04:59+02:00

Thanks for the replies. That is what I have head before in passing, Alt+F4 will cause lagging/stall issues for the remaining players. I hope this post educates others on the subject as well. Don't want to ruin everyone's game just because I made a slight calculation error and pushed up too far.

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 10 May 2014, 21:04

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T23:41:32+02:00

rockoe10 kudos to you for carrying As far as I know you exit by pressing the score button (after no longer being alive).
If there is no score button, I think the way to go is the one you just desribed (the menu). So far, no one complained about the way I leave games but if I am mistaken let me know pls.

Edited to fix typos.

Statistics: Posted by --- — 10 May 2014, 17:32

Re: Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T16:43:11+02:00

I think the game stalls when people leave by Alt+F4. Just yesterday I explained this to a person who rage quit making the game stop. Obviously he did not want to be reasonable about it... Well, one more foe list entry.

I think people really need to be educated about this. Maybe we could have a pop up window that appears for somebody who has just killed the client by Alt + F4 telling them to only do so if the game is not responding or stuff.

Statistics: Posted by Lionhardt — 10 May 2014, 16:43

Leaving a game appropriately

2014-05-10T16:27:22+02:00

How does one leave a game 'appropriately', or at the very least kindly? I've always left by using the menu and choosing 'exit to windows'. Being I can not see what everyone else sees, is this the kind way of leaving? Many times I see people leave and it stalls the game for half a minute. Which is annoying and interrupts your concentration. I don't wont to be one of those people and am curious as to the appropriate way to leave.

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 10 May 2014, 16:27