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Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:58:00+02:00

"BTW, being "right" doesn't make one "Self-Righteous", just right.."

lol

well actually it does. to say you are right because you say you are right is the essence of self-righteousness. put on your thinking cap for once and you'll realise it right away.

i'm out. talking to u is a waste of time.

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 07 Apr 2014, 20:58

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:45:43+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
Clam down guys, it's an intended thing, no need to get upset about anything.

CS,

I've already asked once to have this locked as i knew he'd not let this go.

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 07 Apr 2014, 20:45

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:44:30+02:00

Blackster wrote:
Carrying = crying. I see. Resin_Smoker's logic at best
Had you carefully read, you would have noticed that I already did more then just talk. Once again I cant make out if it is incompetency, illiteracy, arrogance or a mixture of those.
I come to realize you are a guy that knows only one way: forward, no matter what, it seems. Thus, I do not see any point in further talking to you. Self-righteous for the win I guess. Loevely fellow.

So long

I never claimed to be a saint only a modder and i'm sure as sh!t not here to win any popularity contests with the likes of you. (Neither have the time nor do i care.) Far as I'm concerned, if your not here to help, then your in the way and will be treated as such.

BTW, being "right" doesn't make one "Self-Righteous", just right... If you can't handle my little snipe about being too bloody lazy to learn to programming, then you should stay off the internet as it's not a safe place for those with easily bruised egos.

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 07 Apr 2014, 20:44

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:36:57+02:00

Clam down guys, it's an intended thing, no need to get upset about anything.

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 07 Apr 2014, 20:36

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:34:21+02:00

Carrying = crying. I see. Resin_Smoker's logic at best
Had you carefully read, you would have noticed that I already did more then just talk. Once again I cant make out if it is incompetency, illiteracy, arrogance or a mixture of those.
I come to realize you are a guy that knows only one way: forward, no matter what, it seems. Thus, I do not see any point in further talking to you. Self-righteous for the win I guess. Loevely fellow.

So long

Statistics: Posted by --- — 07 Apr 2014, 20:34

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:27:32+02:00

Well then... quit crying and step up, until you do your words are just that.

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 07 Apr 2014, 20:27

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T20:16:37+02:00

"Sorry but I've been getting a little chaffed lately with those that ask or demand but have no intentions of ever learning to do on their own."

Oh, so you assume I am one of them? If so, you know that because... oh ya, you dont, but you assume only. Good job.

"Tis the current situation as life presents itself makes finding the time to do so very difficult. Compound this with the drama in forums and it can get very stressful, especially if a piece of script isn't working as you'd hoped. (Hence my rant) Let's be real here, while we have a great community, those that contribute are few and far between. This places a disproportionate amount of responsibility on those few who do care enough to take the time for FAF."

See, the problem seems to be that you won't see beyond your bubble. Yes, not everyone can program (all lazy slackers, I know) but that doesn't mean people do not contribute. Anaryl programmed as well, Shai-Hulud created the intro for Gyle's casts and I initiated and worked on the new FAF logo, some pics for the community and even a project one of the mods asked me to help with. It's no programming, no, but hell, it brings the community together, even if only a tiny bit. You on the other hand do great things programming, but pls, stick with and write less on the forum for what you write in this thread does the opposite. It pisses people off (how many disagree with your behavior here?). You really think it's ok to present yourself and talk about others the way you do?
You say people overreact here. I say people care. They care about a nice community and getting along where everyone does what he or she can to help out. If you do not believe in it I suggest you stop posting.
Personally, it makes me sad and angry to see how self righteous and arrogant some guys around here are. FAF deserves better.

Statistics: Posted by --- — 07 Apr 2014, 20:16

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T19:15:50+02:00

those that contribute are few and far between. This places a disproportionate amount of responsibility on those few who do care enough to take the time for FAF.

You will find a number of people have projects that don't make it to release. e.g I think I've coded about three versions of the SMS - but my only launched change is the Sparky changes. Other things people investigate things that may or may not be possible - for example a couple of pet projects are multiplayer "re-syncing" (saving basically but for disconnects) another is ... hmm I just forgot. Anyways your OP had no context - as you may have gathered from everybody replying with "Uhhh what?"

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 07 Apr 2014, 19:15

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T16:42:27+02:00

Scripting / modding is fun...

Tis the current situation as life presents itself makes finding the time to do so very difficult. Compound this with the drama in forums and it can get very stressful, especially if a piece of script isn't working as you'd hoped. (Hence my rant) Let's be real here, while we have a great community, those that contribute are few and far between. This places a disproportionate amount of responsibility on those few who do care enough to take the time for FAF.

Beyond all that.. Don't you think your reaction is a bit over the top?

Moderators: I move that this thread be locked and anyone wishing to continue this can do so with me via PM.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 07 Apr 2014, 16:42

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T16:39:47+02:00

@RoundTabler

Thank you. You made it very clear that constructive input is not welcome as it is "complaining" all the time. The game is flawless. And if it is not only programer or at least people who can read such code are invited to comment.

I am not a programmer. I am a medicore player at best. However, I would love the game to be as fair and logical as possible. I respect all the hard work of the programers. in fact, I thought that as non-coder my constructive thoughts would be appreciated - if you can't fix an issue let others at least know that there is something fishy so the pros can have a look at it.

Obviously that is not the case, rather it is: "don't mention something you can't fix yourself."

At least I have tried to argue for my point of view by giving facts only to get answers like: "you are lazy", "you can't code", "you keep complaining", "it has been like that from day 1" - empty, annoyed and unproductive responses.

It is frustrating to realise that there is no discussion going on at all. i came with the best intentions and my reward is the bored rejection of the tech-kings. seems to me like you are not really open minded. you follow your agenda. the input of new/weaker players doesn't seem to be of any relevance rather they are an annoyance. that's sad.

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 07 Apr 2014, 16:39

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T16:30:27+02:00

Oh jeez, yet another smart*ss. Problem is that you guys who are rude imho do the EXACT same thing u take as the reason to act so unfriendly.
RoundTabler, did you even read the latest posts? Or the other thread about the Scouts? Cuz it doesn't seem like you did.
No one was complaigning about the Scout. It was a discussion. A DISCUSSION. Is that so hard to understand? Is it so wrong to openly talk about pros and cons? Isn't that actually exactly the opposite of "being lazy"?
Also, as pointed out earlier: only because something worked in a specific way since day one it doesn't mean it has to stay like that. That's just nuts. You disagree? Well, then toss FAF and go back to the status of FA without all the additional patches.
It is great Resin_Smoker has done so much. I appreciate it, I really do. And if you do not believe me ask HIM. A few days back I pm'ed him for no specific reason but only to say THANK YOU for supporting the community. So pls, dont give me this crap. Much appreciated.
Additionally, I do not care how much someone has done for who or whatever. It never can and should be a legitimate reason for being rude and a pain.

Oh, and also, I do not know how to read that code. I do not even know the language. It's easy to learn? Says who? You? The mayority of coders? Fine. But guess what, people claim English is easy to learn too and still some people have a really hard time with it. You may say: f*ck 'em, not my problem. I say: no biggy, I help those guys out if they ask for information.
This is a forum, a place were people help each other out and have a fun time together. At least I thought so. Maybe I am wrong.

Btw.: saying "otherwise you would not never be able to scout" really doesn't make you look like you seriuosly read any of the previous discussion (too lazy?).

And finally, actively trying to give help (and no "armchair advice") is really fun if it basically sounds like: "Its clearly written in code language in the blueprint. I just dump it here and if u are not able to read it you obviously are too lazy and stupid to put the effort into that. And if you ask for some translation cuz you cannot read, I just ignore you cuz, well I can read it and you can't. Oh, and ya, and probably you cannot read at all. *funny, artistic,making me look so cool and over the top eye rolling smiley*"

You know what? Answers like that you can stick up your *ss. Thanks a bunch!

Statistics: Posted by --- — 07 Apr 2014, 16:30

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T15:59:16+02:00

Resin was not insulting anyone. He was merely restating what Zep, Pip, Zock and many others have said over the years: people are lazy and like to complain. Every balance patch people complain about the changes, or claim bugs, but never play the balance patch, or look at the code. LUA isn't hard to learn, at least to read and understand. But people would rather complain about how a unit has worked since day 1, and i think should and has to work the way it does (otherwise you would never be able to scout). Its very clear that Resin was responding to D3matt's post. Guys this guy has done so much for the community. Many threads where someone states a problem, Resin is the only one that actually tries to help, not just give armchair advice. I've seen everyone is this thread be more hateful and insulting than Resin ever has.

/Rant over

Statistics: Posted by RoundTabler — 07 Apr 2014, 15:59

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T15:50:16+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
Yeah, this really belongs in the thread where that discussion was taking place.

Resin is an accomplished modder from the GPGnet days. At least somebody with that name was.

This is a basic breach of forum etiquette. Resin wtf are you thinking?

Sorry but I've been getting a little chaffed lately with those that ask or demand but have no intentions of ever learning to do on their own.

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 07 Apr 2014, 15:50

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T15:20:32+02:00

Ya, it really is not only Resin_Smoker. IceDreamer also really tried hard to look like a dork by not checking the facts but write nonsense. Credit where credit is due.
Glad to see that not all people here are rude and ignorant.

Statistics: Posted by --- — 07 Apr 2014, 15:20

Re: Seraphim Scout plane intel after death

2014-04-07T15:17:11+02:00

I might confuse things but people keep writing that those units were designed like that on purpose? "the way they work was intended" they say. That makes me chuckle as it leads to the questions: why are there patches in the first place then? why are units getting nerfed/buffed? how dare you to manipulate the game in a way that was never intended by the developers.

you geht the picture.

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 07 Apr 2014, 15:17