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Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T18:45:26+02:00

you can just place buildings and units as wrecks, but reclaim will be very fast in that case, or big spread out on small hp wreckages

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 05 Apr 2014, 18:45

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T17:53:09+02:00

Crazyrush type maps basically fit that idea too :p

Statistics: Posted by Ceneraii — 05 Apr 2014, 17:53

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T17:16:20+02:00

Reclaim bombing will almost certainly prevent any of such maps from beeing seriously played, just look heavens reef

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 05 Apr 2014, 17:16

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T16:34:12+02:00

there is a map called battlefield, but it is not like in startcraft, however i kinda liked that idea, but need to keep in mind that single bomber can take out several "mineral patches"

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 05 Apr 2014, 16:34

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T15:45:27+02:00

Depending on the style of map you want, you can just add valuable wreckage in the home base. Ranging from a Monkeylord to a Mavor, you have some decent choice in how much certainty at the start you can have. Don't forget that when you add more mavors in the same spot, you're essentially making an infinite mass pool, which is no different than a group of mexes that can easily be defended.

I could give this a go, but I'm having a very weird error when I start the map editor, so I can't do any map making. Also, I'm not sure how well this would work. You still have mass fabricators and Resource allocation systems. Those can of course be disabled by a script, but you're probably appealing only to a very small group of players because most just want mass spots, and many people also don't like it when you fiddle about with building restrictions.

Still, no reason not to give it a try.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 05 Apr 2014, 15:45

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T15:29:20+02:00

What you can do is place a bunch of wreckage on top of each other and this will act as sort of the resource field in StarCraft.

Some issues I see is that if you take an engineer and select on the wreckage, it will only reclaim the top of the stack and then just sit there. You will need to issue a patrol path so that the engineer keeps reclaiming the next wreckage.

The next item for consideration is that there will be no limit on the number of engineers (other than space) that can attack the reclaim field. So your economy will be based on how many engineers you can fit into a wreckage field. You may get around that issue by stacking wreckage that has small mass values, this way the engineer will be constantly starting and stopping its reclaim beam and adding more engineers to the wreckage field might not be so beneficial.

The other thing to consider is the possible slowdown due to so many wreckage. Each of those is a 3D mesh that needs to be rendered, and the engine needs to keep track off. I think there is also a prop limit, that is, if there are so many wrecks on the field the engine will start removing the oldest ones first to maintain game performance. Whole wreckage fields might just start disappearing in the game. Perhaps you can create a script that once the wreckage is reclaimed, another will appear, similar to the map the spawns new mass spots around a constructed mass pump. You can have some fun with this as well. First only T1 wreckage is spawned for some time or preset limit, then T2, then onwards to Experimentals. After a few Experimentals the wreckage just disappears. Also wreckage life time will need to be increased or removed.

The final item I can think of is that wreckage can be destroyed. Now you can leave that in as a game element but I feel then it will be a rush to tac missiles and nukes that will just obliterate the stack units (all the wrecks in the stack will take damage due to AOE), unless you create the script I mentioned above or modify wreckage to be immune to damage. I think you can just edit a category entry for this but I am not 100% sure.

Fun game mode for sure.

Statistics: Posted by The Mak — 05 Apr 2014, 15:29

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-05T00:24:02+02:00

As far as I know there were some maps like this, you should try and ask some old players - they would know.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 05 Apr 2014, 00:24

Re: A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-04T22:54:28+02:00

I wish i could make maps, cuz i have so many ideas myself. This is one of them. It shouldn't be too crazy either. sure, not the meta but by all means fun. Somehthing like Cross where there is a wreck in the middle. But this would be smaller wrecks and placed all around. Maybe a script to increase wreckage time to reclaim as well.

Sounds fun to me

P.S.
Storage would need to be increased to near infinity too. If star craft, or any other RTS is the style you are looking for. It would negate the "Flux" economy

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 04 Apr 2014, 22:54

A Map with just reclaim? No mexs.

2014-04-04T20:25:55+02:00

Like a pseudo-starcraft style where your "mining" wrecks/rocks/trees and such?

Statistics: Posted by Goldy3 — 04 Apr 2014, 20:25