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Re: Graphics Cards

2014-09-16T07:08:26+02:00

I have a GTX660 and I updated to the latest WHQL 340.52 video Driver. My UHD monitor would begin to flicker colored squares and bars in game and would get worse and worse. It even happened in Battlefield 4 if I played it w/o a reboot. I downgraded to the May 337.88 driver release and that fixed the problem. Notes on the latest driver say it has problems with 4k displays in 3d. Not really my problem but related to 4K.

I have a 2560x1080 Asus display on my NV card and a 1080p display on my intel 3000 integrated gfx.

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Statistics: Posted by ThinkTank — 16 Sep 2014, 07:08

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T10:51:41+02:00

Iszh wrote:
I just recently have been asking exactly this and havent got a single answer. I have a GTX 260 and fa is running perfectly all the time but in Full Screen AND in dual mode the game is crashing very fast. Opgen GL Error, Grafik driver reboots. It is possible to improve this problem with increasing the delay time between windows and grafic card from 2 to 8 sec. which is recommended by microsoft. unfortunately it is not possible to fix it, it is still crashing but needs a bit more time.

Window mode is the only good working thing.

I strongly suspect this is a driver issue to be honest. I was able to get my 7970 dual stable for 2 months after a refurb, but then one day there was a crash, and then it happened pretty retgularly thereafter.

I recall with testing that 12.06 beta catalyst drivers worked for me in one system iteration but I went back to windowed mode. Then I tried duals again and it was crashy mchappy. I suspect if you find the right and likely older drivers you could get duals to work. Just a theory though, it's probably something in the engine.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 10 Mar 2014, 10:51

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T10:24:46+02:00

I just recently have been asking exactly this and havent got a single answer. I have a GTX 260 and fa is running perfectly all the time but in Full Screen AND in dual mode the game is crashing very fast. Opgen GL Error, Grafik driver reboots. It is possible to improve this problem with increasing the delay time between windows and grafic card from 2 to 8 sec. which is recommended by microsoft. unfortunately it is not possible to fix it, it is still crashing but needs a bit more time.

Window mode is the only good working thing.

Statistics: Posted by Iszh — 10 Mar 2014, 10:24

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T10:06:03+02:00

Most of my crashes when i have Dual Screen on are past the 30 minute mark. Some people never play anything that lasts that long.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 10 Mar 2014, 10:06

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T09:11:04+02:00

Just to speak up for reference, I seem to be one of the few people who have no issues getting dual monitors to work, I'm running dual nvidia GTX 760 cards, so the issue is probably not tied specifically to newer cards (but then this may work because I have two cards).

Statistics: Posted by Rogueleader89 — 10 Mar 2014, 09:11

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T08:43:31+02:00

I know a number of players who cannot run dual monitors on AMD, nVidea solutions, to issues with socket 2011 boards, there doesnt seem to be much ryhme or reason to getting dual monitors to work. Sooner or later the gfx will just lockup.

I have read that its actually an FA engine issue - and that dual monitors are really only stable in vanilla - I'm not 100% sure on that. I do know post 3599 that getting duals to run is a Sisyphean task on FAF though.

In regards to performance it will come down to single thread performance, but also you know it will come down your systems ability to manage overhead - so you will at least need something pushing at 3Ghz with two or more cores. Also there is a fair bit of perf degradation with older C2Ds, so I imagine the speed of the cache and the bus would play a significant role as well. Apart from single core frequency, your connection will also be the major bottleneck. No point upgrading a PC if your main bottleneck is packetloss.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 10 Mar 2014, 08:43

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-10T02:34:29+02:00

If I remember right tatsu bought a 6xx series card and still had no luck.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 10 Mar 2014, 02:34

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-09T20:55:25+02:00

I have a 600 series though...... I am thinking that the newer cards do not have some of the issues that the older ones do.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 09 Mar 2014, 20:55

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-09T13:54:48+02:00

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:
@Icedreamer, the type of CPU you have has absolutely nothing to do with frame rate. Only the sim speed is affected by CPU performance, and Intel, while a little more expensive, is proven to run FA much, much better than AMD unless you are clocking to absurd levels. Intel just has better single thread performance, which is what FA needs.

As to the GPUs, I can speak for the 600 series Nvidea cards and they do fine. I picked up a 2 gig ASUS 650ti card on a 10% OC for under 100 bucks. I run it on two screens with graphics on FA turned to max and anti-aliasing on, and I have a rock solid 55-60 FPS no matter what.

You must be one of the lucky few. I have an GTX 570 in my newer PC and a GTX 285 in my older PC: and on both I can't run Dual Screen. Something like 20% of games results in a crash if I do.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 09 Mar 2014, 13:54

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-09T04:03:02+02:00

the fps drops from range circles is really a pain. it makes me have them disabled 99% of the time.

Statistics: Posted by Lionhardt — 09 Mar 2014, 04:03

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-09T15:23:53+02:00

FPS is absolutely affected by CPU, it's just that in SupCom the difference it makes relative to SimSpeed is usually tiny. More to the point though, I have always suspected that the FPS drops I've seen are CPU based and to do with the drawing of those range rings...

I've got a GTX 560M in this Laptop. It runs maxed 1080P at 60FPS with not a drop in sight, AA off, at all Zoom levels, until I select something. As soon as I select even a single unit, BOOM 10FPS... I've given up trying to fix it.

The curious part is my Family PC, the only one of the Intel CPU machines to not have this problem, and the only Intel machine with an AMD GFX card... Admittedly it is also by far the most powerful, with an i5 4670 and HD7870, but it's still curious.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 09 Mar 2014, 03:36

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-09T02:02:34+02:00

@Icedreamer, the type of CPU you have has absolutely nothing to do with frame rate. Only the sim speed is affected by CPU performance, and Intel, while a little more expensive, is proven to run FA much, much better than AMD unless you are clocking to absurd levels. Intel just has better single thread performance, which is what FA needs.

As to the GPUs, I can speak for the 600 series Nvidea cards and they do fine. I picked up a 2 gig ASUS 650ti card on a 10% OC for under 100 bucks. I run it on two screens with graphics on FA turned to max and anti-aliasing on, and I have a rock solid 55-60 FPS no matter what.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 09 Mar 2014, 02:02

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-08T18:26:52+02:00

Newer nvidia GPU's have problems with dual monitor, 6xx randomly crashes and 7xx just rejects dual monitor..

Statistics: Posted by D4E_Omit — 08 Mar 2014, 18:26

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-08T18:06:13+02:00

Well I have the same CPU as the OP, 8GB Corsair VENGEANCE RAM and an Nvidia GTX 760 (the latest gen) 2GB MSI OC edition (factory overclock) and even I get low framerates when I zoom into an engineer and queue up manual reclaim orders, so I wouldn't worry.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 08 Mar 2014, 18:06

Re: Graphics Cards

2014-03-07T02:05:25+02:00

I used to run an ATI 4830 (which was on par with the NVIDIA 8800GT at the time). It ran fine at 1920x1200 and had no frame rate issues, but I didn't have the AA turned up. I have since upgraded to a NVIDIA 650ti. It also runs great, but since I had no issues with my previous video card I can't really say that I see an improvement.

HOWEVER, Regarding multiple monitors and Supcom:
I used to have dual monitors set up with my ATI 4830 and it was great when it worked. But it caused freezes and lockups. After much troubleshooting, I eventually disabled the second monitor to prevent the game crashes. I have not even attempted it with my newer NVIDIA 650ti. There are many forum threads about the dual monitor problem. If you have dual monitors working now without any crashes, then I would say leave it alone and keep your current graphics setup. Don't poke the hornet nest.

And regarding your CPU, your Intel 4670 is great for Supcom (as I am sure you already know).

Statistics: Posted by Cynic — 07 Mar 2014, 02:05