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Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-08T22:02:04+02:00

I agree with Kulu. It seems lime more of an exploit of the engine to me. I would be VERY surprised if the designers intended for bombers to be able to do this. At least it's not that hard to do, and everyone can take advantage of it.

Statistics: Posted by Flipper — 08 Jan 2014, 22:02

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-08T21:55:08+02:00

ZLO_RD wrote:
they can't drop immidietly, they have reload time

Yes i wanted to say that they release a bomb unnaturally fast after the first.

speed2 wrote:
its not cheating but micro, its kinda like with tanks, you can just send them in, one simple order (which is not the best idea usually) or you can micro them,
and same thing you can do with bomber, and only cause of not many people know how to do that, its not cheating
you can do it with every bomber if you know reload time, T4 is easiest to control, cause its huge

You really think stopping a bomber in the air, bugging him a few seconds and then bombing the same target twice is a good micro? And you cant compare this to microing tanks in a battle.
But thats just my opinion.

Statistics: Posted by Kulu — 08 Jan 2014, 21:55

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-06T22:24:12+02:00

You can do that with the seaphim bomber as well. I think that one of the earliest FA videos on YouTube was of a sera bomber instakill his entire ASF escort (or was it an enemy blob? Doesn't matter) by bombing the trailing group when it actually wanted to bomb an extractor. It was accidental of course, but you can try to time for it in order to kill a blob, or try to get a few spy planes under the bombers so that the bomb will do damage to the ahwassa as well as to your base.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 06 Jan 2014, 22:24

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-06T19:51:46+02:00

In a Gyle cast, I saw a player, TA4Life I think, stall his bomber and drop a bomb destroying a blob of trailing interceptors. Very nasty trick indeed. Not sure if the bomb actually hit an interceptor or if the explosion reaches up high enough to damage planes, so timing may be very very key.

Statistics: Posted by Flipper — 06 Jan 2014, 19:51

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-06T18:26:02+02:00

its not cheating but micro, its kinda like with tanks, you can just send them in, one simple order (which is not the best idea usually) or you can micro them,
and same thing you can do with bomber, and only cause of not many people know how to do that, its not cheating
you can do it with every bomber if you know reload time, T4 is easiest to control, cause its huge

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 06 Jan 2014, 18:26

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-06T10:56:36+02:00

they can't drop immidietly, they have reload time

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 06 Jan 2014, 10:56

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-05T21:33:35+02:00

Is it fixed, that a bomber can stop after dropping the first bomb and immediatly drop another bomb? that always feels like cheating.

Statistics: Posted by Kulu — 05 Jan 2014, 21:33

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-05T20:13:39+02:00

Always groundfire with it and when you select a target for groundfire move it araund instead of selecting new target. If you are confident in your micro you can slow it down before target and when it realeases (or not ) imidietly order it to fly back, that way it wont fly over entire enemy base in order to make a second pass.

Statistics: Posted by Marko Box — 05 Jan 2014, 20:13

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T20:03:03+02:00

Yeah I started the attack actually with ground attack, but then changed it to attack shields. But when I started moving it, so it wasn't at the last moment. I recall in other matches that ground attack made no difference, it just flew over the target and I had a feeling pilot (AI...) was waving to enemy units. Pacifistic hippy scum

Statistics: Posted by Brutus — 04 Jan 2014, 20:03

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T19:42:12+02:00

Maybe using the "ground attack" option helps

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 04 Jan 2014, 19:42

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T19:22:38+02:00

pip wrote:
It's because of elevation differences, like hills. There are hills on Isis so there will always be a chance that the bomber will wait for 2nd pass before dropping. Sometimes it will drop on first pass, sometimes not. To ensure higher first drop rate, try to have no hills in the filght trajectory.

I guess I'll need to really watch out for what it moves over, aight.

Statistics: Posted by Brutus — 04 Jan 2014, 19:22

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T19:23:02+02:00

ZLO_RD wrote:
http://youtu.be/GFji3y4ygw8?t=26m happened to me as well

I see and understand how that felt precisely...

My target was the def base on Isis which was on the first passage, so between those starting hills. It did however had to move over the middle hill, after which it had well some 2km of flight above flat ground. But I guess middle hill could've confused the AI running it...

Replay attached. Minute 40... built by me, top right corner.

Statistics: Posted by Brutus — 04 Jan 2014, 19:21

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T11:04:33+02:00

It's because of elevation differences, like hills. There are hills on Isis so there will always be a chance that the bomber will wait for 2nd pass before dropping. Sometimes it will drop on first pass, sometimes not. To ensure higher first drop rate, try to have no hills in the filght trajectory.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 04 Jan 2014, 11:04

Re: T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T10:58:05+02:00

http://youtu.be/GFji3y4ygw8?t=26m happened to me as well

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 04 Jan 2014, 10:58

T4 Sera Bomber Scout

2014-01-04T05:49:20+02:00

Can somebody please explain why do Sera T4 bombers hardly ever release bomb on the first run? Somebody mentioned they need a few km of flight to release it. I just had Isis game with certain 3km of flight path before its supposed release of the bomb, and the bomb itself was loaded. It did not release it. It happens too often. Why? Is there a catch with it? Pretty expensive scouting unit and it often ends up being just that.

Thanks

Statistics: Posted by Brutus — 04 Jan 2014, 05:49