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Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-13T06:25:30+02:00

Same as a TML. In the sense that it can be toggled between auto-fire and manual fire modes. By right clicking on the green OC button. Just as is done with the TML. The only difference between the two is that the TML would default to auto-build. The SCU default would be manual fire.

The reason for this would be to allow player control. As they walk on the battlefield the player authorises them to make independent target selections. Preventing the aforementioned power-drain-killing-eco scenario. Because the function can be disabled.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 13 Nov 2013, 06:25

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-12T11:42:28+02:00

Just like the opposite of TML's, which auto-build by default. ;P

I know, I know, you meant it the other way. Just reads odd.

Statistics: Posted by errorblankfield — 12 Nov 2013, 11:42

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-12T06:31:22+02:00

DeimosEvotec wrote:
How about making it so that, if you have multiple unites selected that are capable of overcharging and you use it only one unit uses it at a time and not all at once. For example you have 3 SCUs selected and use overcharge one SCU fires and when you use it again the next one fires and so on, as long as there is a SCU ready to overcharge. That would make the overcharge of the SCUs way easier to use when in a group. What do you think about this idea?

It would make the mechanics less predictable. Consider the scenario where 4 Sera SCU vs Monkeylord. You actually want them all to fire their OC cannons in one huge Alpha Strike. The changed mechanic would break this.

My recommendation would be that auto-overcharge be implemented with the SCU only. It should be enabled or disabled by right clicking on the overcharge button in the tool pallet. With the default set for manual fire. Just like the auto-build function on TML's.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 12 Nov 2013, 06:31

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-11T18:09:53+02:00

Poch wrote:
Yep i think it's a great idea ! It would make it a lot easier to use without making overcharge fully automatic. With the upcoming SCU presets, it would make the feature really usefull.

I suggested it in the balance topic: http://www.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5692&p=57860#p57860

Statistics: Posted by DeimosEvotec — 11 Nov 2013, 18:09

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-11T14:31:02+02:00

DeimosEvotec wrote:
How about making it so that, if you have multiple unites selected that are capable of overcharging and you use it only one unit uses it at a time and not all at once. For example you have 3 SCUs selected and use overcharge one SCU fires and when you use it again the next one fires and so on, as long as there is a SCU ready to overcharge. That would make the overcharge of the SCUs way easier to use when in a group. What do you think about this idea?

Yep i think it's a great idea ! It would make it a lot easier to use without making overcharge fully automatic. With the upcoming SCU presets, it would make the feature really usefull.

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 11 Nov 2013, 14:31

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-10T20:23:49+02:00

Wakke wrote:
I think that is a good idea. Maybe also applicable to TML's?

I don't think this would be good for tml because of sniping ACUs, overwhelming tmd and other things that require multiple (simultaneous) missile launches. You can use ctrl+g for tmls I think.

Edit: Except if it would be toggleable for tmls, so that you can switch between single and simultaneous launch.

Statistics: Posted by DeimosEvotec — 10 Nov 2013, 20:23

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-10T19:46:12+02:00

DeimosEvotec wrote:
How about making it so that, if you have multiple unites selected that are capable of overcharging and you use it only one unit uses it at a time and not all at once. For example you have 3 SCUs selected and use overcharge one SCU fires and when you use it again the next one fires and so on, as long as there is a SCU ready to overcharge. That would make the overcharge of the SCUs way easier to use when in a group. What do you think about this idea?

I think that is a good idea. Maybe also applicable to TML's?

Statistics: Posted by Wakke — 10 Nov 2013, 19:46

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-10T19:14:46+02:00

How about making it so that, if you have multiple unites selected that are capable of overcharging and you use it only one unit uses it at a time and not all at once. For example you have 3 SCUs selected and use overcharge one SCU fires and when you use it again the next one fires and so on, as long as there is a SCU ready to overcharge. That would make the overcharge of the SCUs way easier to use when in a group. What do you think about this idea?

Statistics: Posted by DeimosEvotec — 10 Nov 2013, 19:14

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-10T11:04:24+02:00

It works well enough in SC2. If we could just make it a toggle.

Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 10 Nov 2013, 11:04

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-10T00:19:41+02:00

wtf i also have additional buttons and i never even thought of using them in faf.
this is such a great idea!

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 10 Nov 2013, 00:19

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-09T22:54:22+02:00

This is one advantage of having a mouse with more than the traditional two buttons..... I have overcharge, reclaim, and assist keyed to the extra buttons on my mouse so I can just select unit and double tap to use an action. Makes life a whole lot easier.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 09 Nov 2013, 22:54

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-09T18:59:01+02:00

Thanks for explaining that seyia. But i was wondering about the mods that auto-enable/disable the mass fabs. Isn't that action a command too ?

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 09 Nov 2013, 18:59

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-09T14:42:55+02:00

Anything that auto issues commands to a unit is a sim mod. It doesnt seem like it should be, but the way it is setup, it is forced into being a sim mod. Or another way to put it, the UI cannot issue commands. The issue command... command... is only on the sim side. The UI can pass the trigger for a command to be issued, but it cannot issue them directly.

Statistics: Posted by seiya — 09 Nov 2013, 14:42

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-09T12:16:56+02:00

Yeah i like to think i'm good enough to micro my ACU myself ^^

But for sera SCUs, unless you're running -5 simspeed past 3 units, it is impossible to use the feature decently, for a lot of reasons. For example if only 1 sacu can't overcharge (reload time), the icon is greyed for all of them, and you can't use OC until they are all reloaded. And optimizing the shots, etc, is perfectly impossible to do while you're playing if you can't watch them 100% of the time

But back to topic, if it were done, would it be an UI mod or a sim-mod ?

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 09 Nov 2013, 12:16

Re: Auto-overcharging

2013-11-09T12:03:31+02:00

ya for sera scu it could be nice
but for an acu it would just get totally useless

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 09 Nov 2013, 12:03