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Re: Smurfing

2013-09-05T00:02:56+02:00

I agreed .

Statistics: Posted by LittleInferno — 05 Sep 2013, 00:02

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T23:20:28+02:00

If you don't do any harm with your second account, I see no reason to ban it.

I'm quoting the SteamLink news :

Smurfing is utilizing an account with a lower ranking than usual to beat up on lesser players.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 04 Sep 2013, 23:20

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T23:18:32+02:00

So essentially it is not the smurfing that is the problem it is the use of smurf accounts to bash noobs. It is an important distinction to make, IMHAO

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 04 Sep 2013, 23:18

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T23:07:11+02:00

Flynn wrote:
1. I don't understand why people smurf

2. I don't understand why the pros do it and are allowed to do it but normal players are not allowed to do it. It is well known that most pros have at least one smurf account.

I put this to Zep, why is this double standard allowed?

Because pro don't do it to bash noobs. So it's okay.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 04 Sep 2013, 23:07

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T23:04:46+02:00

1. I don't understand why people smurf

2. I don't understand why the pros do it and are allowed to do it but normal players are not allowed to do it. It is well known that most pros have at least one smurf account.

I put this to Zep, why is this double standard allowed?

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 04 Sep 2013, 23:04

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T02:50:04+02:00

LittleInferno wrote:
Can not we just ban Katherine/tectec forever and get this over with

im quite certain 99% of the community agree

Statistics: Posted by FireMessiah — 04 Sep 2013, 02:50

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T01:27:05+02:00

Is tectec trying to convince us that that's he/she's not tectec?

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 04 Sep 2013, 01:27

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T01:49:41+02:00

First zep already now,and i say again i total suport this catch smurfs.

Well I do not really see much justice, I'm banned nearly 1 year(Katherine that its who im not tectec ,im tectec but i hate that name its a shadow) and so many others who zep know who they are, others are still out there, unfortunately they got good friends so they cant be baned not problem to me we need them .
Most smurfs does not even care to have a rating between 800/1200 and play like +1500, and left their accounts 1500/1800/+2000 to try have some luck.
For now I hope this not be for long.
But worst and here that I'm really angry, I'm banned and the entire community wished my disposal and with great joy, which is quite sad because it seems incredible, i always tried to respect all the best possible way, also already had my attitudes but I learned from them.
But when zep and very well caught half of smurfs out there ... well I did not expect!
All weep for them and speak of them with little words, and these smurfs can continue playing with -9999, without being banned as I'm .
Fine by me FAF need players, but it certainly is not necessary to use me as an example.
I know why some one say :

(Can not we just ban Katherine / tectec (or whatever other name he / she / it has chosen this time) forever and get this over with, this is giving me a headache, I do not understand how he still has so many chances, I mean, seriously ...
"FA is like a brick wall you run into for a few weeks before you realize you gotta climb it. Problem is, it's infinitely high."
In due time.

This was hypocrisy at the highest level, not to call racism.
The more educated are well aware, that there are several types of racism, and not only the color or sex does an individual.
If there are smurfs they have to be banned for some time to arrest comply with the system, as I learned, here and there,there is no room for pride of being ill say this or that, its how am.
Unfortunately I have been constantly attacked verbally by all, but also I have seen that many begin to stand by me.
I agreed with Zep but also i agreed with Kof ,insted baning we must find other way to show them on comunity.
They (i Katherine) can play but all nows who we are .
Remenber we are only -700 players on the best rts ever made.

Statistics: Posted by LittleInferno — 04 Sep 2013, 01:23

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T00:52:06+02:00

Ok, Zep, you know better! I was making a suggestion nevertheless!

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 04 Sep 2013, 00:52

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T00:16:28+02:00

The -9999 rating was temporary. It's reverted for a day now. It was warning. There won't be a second one.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 04 Sep 2013, 00:16

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-04T00:01:02+02:00

prodromos wrote:
There is a more shrewd and politically convenient solution, so that the moderators can have an image both of a benevolent and just administrator; no need to be seen as the bad guy while at the same time allowing the newcomers a pleasant gaming experience away from sick "behaviours".

Detect the smurf and adjust its rating and position in the ladder according to its true skill.
For example is it a t3 with an actual rating of 1400? Make that account a T3 with 1400 rating. Thus you cancel the reason for creating the smurf account in the first place; to spread fear and despair among less skilled players. Let it break its teeth against worthy adversaries; no need for a -9999 rating!
Does it happen to lose on purpose so as to fall in the lower leagues? Readjust its rating

Even simpler, put an avatar ingame to signify that it is asmurf account, or that it used to be!

This.

Statistics: Posted by RoundTabler — 04 Sep 2013, 00:01

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-03T23:17:16+02:00

There is a more shrewd and politically convenient solution, so that the moderators can have an image both of a benevolent and just administrator; no need to be seen as the bad guy while at the same time allowing the newcomers a pleasant gaming experience away from sick "behaviours".

Detect the smurf and adjust its rating and position in the ladder according to its true skill.
For example is it a t3 with an actual rating of 1400? Make that account a T3 with 1400 rating. Thus you cancel the reason for creating the smurf account in the first place; to spread fear and despair among less skilled players. Let it break its teeth against worthy adversaries; no need for a -9999 rating!
Does it happen to lose on purpose so as to fall in the lower leagues? Readjust its rating

Even simpler, put an avatar ingame to signify that it is asmurf account, or that it used to be!

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 03 Sep 2013, 23:17

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-03T22:59:17+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
I'm not okay when it's to ruin other people experience.

THIS !!!

there are several hundreds, if not a few thousand, who have never been banned and follow the rules perfectly.
I have NO SYMPATHY for anyone attempting to break rules/cheat the system/trying to fool Zep.
even the ones "claiming" to have done nothing wrong... read the rules, read the forums.

the smurfing rules deserve to be tough.
I say "good riddance" to anyone whose been caught recently,
the majority of players are HAPPY to see these procedures WORKING!

Statistics: Posted by FireMessiah — 03 Sep 2013, 22:59

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-03T22:06:22+02:00

To be clear :

I don't really care about smurf when they want to trust the ladder. The league system and trueskill disallow that quite well.

I'm not okay when it's to ruin other people experience.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 03 Sep 2013, 22:06

Re: Smurfing

2013-09-03T22:03:56+02:00

I respect your opinion, but I stand over what I said.

GL HF

Statistics: Posted by Kof — 03 Sep 2013, 22:03