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Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-11T03:14:51+02:00

Luxor144 wrote:
Ummm....greetings.

I've been informed that my mod is being discussed here and was asked to join in.
First of all, I'd like to say I've never personally tried FAF before, so I didn't actually made my mod compatible with it, which might explain most of the technical issues (like that single missile per silo crap).
As for trail effects, they are still in development stage, although I'm still kinda struggling to find a good length for them, as too long pretty much paints the missile trajectory on screen, and too short just doesn't look good or realistic. But as I said, still tweaking it.
For that trail disposition thing, I've noticed it, and it pisses me off too, though I suspect the heat effect might be to blame, which makes it look that way, although I'm not completely sure about that yet.

Welcome!
Glad to see that you have joined! I believe that in FAF mod-vault someone else added your mod? I really hope to see a compatible with FAF version, and then maybe we could see a further discussion.

Statistics: Posted by Chosen One — 11 Sep 2013, 03:14

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T11:27:53+02:00

Don't forget that it's normal to have missile rocket engine's cut off after attaining the peak of their ballistic arc.
Current RL missiles don't burn for more than perhaps 1/3rd of their trajectory.

This could be a way to reduce the smoke billboards for optimisation. Also encourages scouting...

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 09 Sep 2013, 11:27

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T11:01:35+02:00

Retnut wrote:
Basically what I'm asking is: does this mod actually change the flight path of the missile or just make it a lot more visible because of the obvious trails?

it makes it more obvious, the flight paths have always been a little bit shitty

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 09 Sep 2013, 11:01

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T08:23:52+02:00

Ummm....greetings.

I've been informed that my mod is being discussed here and was asked to join in.
First of all, I'd like to say I've never personally tried FAF before, so I didn't actually made my mod compatible with it, which might explain most of the technical issues (like that single missile per silo crap).
As for trail effects, they are still in development stage, although I'm still kinda struggling to find a good length for them, as too long pretty much paints the missile trajectory on screen, and too short just doesn't look good or realistic. But as I said, still tweaking it.
For that trail disposition thing, I've noticed it, and it pisses me off too, though I suspect the heat effect might be to blame, which makes it look that way, although I'm not completely sure about that yet.

Statistics: Posted by Luxor144 — 09 Sep 2013, 08:23

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T05:06:15+02:00

I would love to see these smoke trails implemented. Especially for nuke silos. When you launch a Nuclear Warhead there should be a very vivid and epic effect that occurs. For tmls launching out of cruisers i also think there should be a pretty nice effect.(If you look at videos of real missiles being launched from ships they do make pretty big smoke clouds....) However definitely fix any issues first. But anyway, I have wanted more smoke trails/launch effects for missiles since I started playing SupCom...

Statistics: Posted by Astrofoo — 09 Sep 2013, 05:06

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T04:34:09+02:00

Are the unnatural looking trails a result of the mod or a result of the actual trajectory of the missile? I have noticed nukes making strange looking hairpin turns close to their target forever (long before FA), presumably because if they had realistic parabolic trajectories they would have a much higher chance of hitting cliffs or whatever else and missing the target. It might (depending on other factors) also be more difficult to calculate anti-nuke trajectories in the engine because you'd have to calculate the intersection of two parabolic curves instead of two linear curves (lazy GPG devs ). Basically what I'm asking is: does this mod actually change the flight path of the missile or just make it a lot more visible because of the obvious trails?

If that's the case, it might be possible to only use the effects at launch and not once the missile hits max height. This wouldn't fix the nuke silo only firing once, though.

Statistics: Posted by Retnut — 09 Sep 2013, 04:34

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T03:03:29+02:00

- Your mod breaks a lot of things atm, for example the nuke silo cant fire more than one nuke
- a bit less smoke for normal TML, much less for mml and cruiser (maybe a bit less, less for Spearhead)

I just screened everything that looks stupid/weired

Maybe the trail can dissapear faster, or get blown away at the impact, also maybe when the missle is on travel hight it gets a much smaller tail, so that this "knick" doesnt
look so awefull, i mean it's not unusal for amissle to extra accelerate near to their target

i think something is wrong with the location of the engine.. at least it feels like this

the nukestart from the strat missle sub looks awefull right now, thebilly looks cool but has the same problem as the first 3 pictures obviously

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 09 Sep 2013, 03:03

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-09T02:09:53+02:00

Pls, launch this mod, see how it looks in dynamic. Its called Firey Explosions. It is in mod vault.

Statistics: Posted by Chosen One — 09 Sep 2013, 02:09

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T21:17:28+02:00

i like the missile effects as well... im not sure why you think they are too much :/
to me they look more realistic and awesome as well (who even cares about realism anyway?)
its more satisfying to have a trail for a nuke rather than a green strip for aeon.. and the tac missile trails look kinda meh atm

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 08 Sep 2013, 21:17

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T19:40:37+02:00

pls have a look at the nomads mod and DONT do it like that, find a way to end smooth pls

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 08 Sep 2013, 19:40

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T19:08:57+02:00

The trail can be modified to be a bit less smoky. But trail itself is good, even wind after its launch is moving it. AA missiles looks awesome too, after the defense against air raid with UEF T3 AA the airspace looks like real battle was going on. Cruise and Nukes missiles is ok I believe (I mean this effects of it), cuz u know, they are always smoky types.

Statistics: Posted by Chosen One — 08 Sep 2013, 19:08

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T16:04:05+02:00

well i dont think it's too much for a nuke but yes too much for tactical missle

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 08 Sep 2013, 16:04

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T15:35:24+02:00

That's a little too much. (not the torpedo but the smokes)

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 08 Sep 2013, 15:35

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-09-08T14:51:12+02:00

I was speaking bout this.

Statistics: Posted by Chosen One — 08 Sep 2013, 14:51

Re: Missile/Torpedo trails. And the future of FAF.

2013-08-27T20:45:18+02:00

You dont need to worry ppl will keep play faf even iff in small numbers.
But indeed iff PA have good game ahead maybe in future...who nows?
I think the players we have now will keep here forever,we have enouth players.

Statistics: Posted by LittleInferno — 27 Aug 2013, 20:45