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Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-10T05:10:16+02:00

i agree,they are too strong at the early games

Statistics: Posted by sonil — 10 Aug 2013, 05:10

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-09T19:48:34+02:00

Yea, well. I play Aeon. So it's not exactly in my interest to tell people how to beat them but it can be done.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 09 Aug 2013, 19:48

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-09T17:41:00+02:00

That's why players who know the deal are here to help them. (Not me though, because I don't.) They might start off with a complaint, but once they get attention from that, they can get some real advice instead. That's what I love about community projects like this, as opposed to patches that come from the developers without any direct player input or clear feedback.

Statistics: Posted by Mycen — 09 Aug 2013, 17:41

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-08T21:25:36+02:00

Yes, sasin, you are right. I dislike how some people don't even try and beat some tactic or unit use ... they just complain that it is "op" and they'll never figure it out that way, will they :/

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 08 Aug 2013, 21:25

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-08T19:13:24+02:00

Retnut wrote:
Gorton wrote:^While I kind of agree, we can't balance a faction based on one map.

Let alone one fourth of one map.

But yes, I think it makes sense to wait until the win/loss statistics are more statistically significant. Aeon, which was an underpowered race according to the balance team, recently got a buff and so we should expect to see more people using them in competitive play. Additionally, we can expect that it will take some time to come up with counters to what we are now seeing as effective Aeon play. The fact that no one is particularly good at countering T1 Aeon play at present does not preclude the possibility of this changing in the future. Meta takes some time to develop.

This is very true. Can we try to remember this for most every balance discussion?

Statistics: Posted by sasin — 08 Aug 2013, 19:13

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-08T13:20:11+02:00

I have noticed that given the lack of Aeon, people have forgotten their basic counters and strategies

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excactly.
for example raiding with strikers is very effectice.
yo have to dodge more than half the strikers shots and he will dodge some himsels

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 08 Aug 2013, 13:20

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-08T05:32:10+02:00

In some respects this was to be expected. I was a full time Aeon player before the patch and I still play Aeon now. I have noticed that given the lack of Aeon, people have forgotten their basic counters and strategies. As a consequence the old tricks had come good again. Because they are unexpected. Aeon do have faction specific counters, but it will require a process of relearning.

No only do you need to wait for the statistics to become meaningful, but, you also need to wait for the meta-game to come full circle. The other factions have taken a hit. So the next thing we expect to see is the development of counter strategies. Till this process is complete, the true balance will not be known.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 08 Aug 2013, 05:32

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-08T02:40:47+02:00

Gorton wrote:
^While I kind of agree, we can't balance a faction based on one map.

Let alone one fourth of one map.

But yes, I think it makes sense to wait until the win/loss statistics are more statistically significant. Aeon, which was an underpowered race according to the balance team, recently got a buff and so we should expect to see more people using them in competitive play. Additionally, we can expect that it will take some time to come up with counters to what we are now seeing as effective Aeon play. The fact that no one is particularly good at countering T1 Aeon play at present does not preclude the possibility of this changing in the future. Meta takes some time to develop.

Statistics: Posted by Retnut — 08 Aug 2013, 02:40

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T21:24:32+02:00

i have never seen that happen although i havent played setons after the patch.
but a few changes that make the aurora more controllable dont have such an effect.
if this enables aeon to steamroll setons mid then you would have always felt a significant advantage for aeon in mid, what i didnd

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 07 Aug 2013, 21:24

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T21:21:11+02:00

Unless I am in a game with people I know (from playing quite a few games with them) I'd rather they concentrated on what they were doing rather than watch them botch up what I asked them to do

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 07 Aug 2013, 21:21

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T21:07:54+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
I'm not sure but I believe you have teammates.

^^ What are those?

Statistics: Posted by RoundTabler — 07 Aug 2013, 21:07

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T19:52:31+02:00

I'm not sure but I believe you have teammates.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 07 Aug 2013, 19:52

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T19:22:12+02:00

^While I kind of agree, we can't balance a faction based on one map.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 07 Aug 2013, 19:22

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T19:11:14+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
Auroras are countered by about anything but T1 tanks.

Yes and thats why they are op atm on setons mid. In good players hands you can just roll over your oponent, and im yet to see a build where you beat aeon early rush without falling apart in eco. And as it is said you cant fight back with comm, so damage gets pilled on in undogable way really quickly.

Statistics: Posted by Marko Box — 07 Aug 2013, 19:11

Re: The Current state of Aeon

2013-08-07T13:26:00+02:00

Auroras are countered by about anything but T1 tanks.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 07 Aug 2013, 13:26