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Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-17T07:43:30+02:00

There is already two topic about these stupid rules. Let's keep this one to "there is official rules, it's up to people to inform players of their made up rules inside the lobby before a game".

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 17 Jul 2013, 07:43

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-17T06:18:52+02:00

Yes, I play Seatons matches and am familiar with these matches. I obviously cannot speak for everyone, and I myself am against rules of any kind. But views on this issue can be grouped into several categories.

1. No mixing of any kind for any reason
2. Mixing is acceptable when as a result of captured enemy tech
3. Mixing as a result of two players building in the same sea is acceptable (though some may stipulate that these should operate as separate tactical units).
4. That there are no rules in ranked matches and mixing as a result of shared tech from an ally is acceptable.

Personally, I subscribe the the 4th of these options. I think all forms of mixing are acceptable in a ranked match. Ranked matches by their very nature should not have house rules or artificial unit restrictions. However, in a non-ranked match I will respect restrictions in line with option 2, provided they are explicitly stated in the lobby or game title.

I think you will find most players subscribe to option 2. If you have aquired enemy tech, most will recognise it as fair gain.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 17 Jul 2013, 06:18

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T22:48:11+02:00

That's why it's here on the forums; a lot of the players who I am talking about frequent these forums.
I also can't be bothered to find them all and message them all about it.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 16 Jul 2013, 22:48

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T22:43:12+02:00

Gorton wrote:
Guys: I think you're missing the point. Mixed navy/army is frowned upon and people don't do it and as such it isn't done. I'm asking those people if it's still frowned upon if the tech is captured, not given by ally.

Why don't you ask these people directly ? I highly doubt they are the majority of FAF players.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Jul 2013, 22:43

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T21:57:38+02:00

Gorton wrote:
Guys: I think you're missing the point. Mixed navy/army is frowned upon and people don't do it and as such it isn't done. I'm asking those people if it's still frowned upon if the tech is captured, not given by ally.

And the answer is no. There might be some who would whine about it if you capture tech, but those either missed that you captured it (so just explain it) or are idiots and you should take advantage of the inbuilt fancy filter function

Statistics: Posted by SC-Account — 16 Jul 2013, 21:57

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T21:10:56+02:00

Guys: I think you're missing the point. Mixed navy/army is frowned upon and people don't do it and as such it isn't done. I'm asking those people if it's still frowned upon if the tech is captured, not given by ally.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 16 Jul 2013, 21:10

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T20:06:07+02:00

Gorton wrote:
Just throwing this out here : While it's generally frowned upon to mix several faction's units into one army or navy, is it acceptable to do so if you take the required technology from someone by capture?

Alls fair in love and war. Shouldnt be frowned upon unless it was a stipulated rule from the lobby.

Statistics: Posted by Gyle — 16 Jul 2013, 20:06

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T19:43:33+02:00

I do not think there are any people who are against mixed navy and also against using mixed navy if you capture an enemy engineer. If the enemy was stupid enough to let you, then you can do whatever you want with it.

Statistics: Posted by galacticfear — 16 Jul 2013, 19:43

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T18:49:05+02:00

Once and for all: there is no rule that forbids naval mixing, only banned stuff are the things listed under banned exploits etc

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 16 Jul 2013, 18:49

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T18:36:50+02:00

If it's unwritten, it's not a rule. Feel free to mix navy (or land, or air) when you want.

Sharing unit is part of the game. If it wasn't a good thing, it wouldn't be possible anymore.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Jul 2013, 18:36

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T18:37:57+02:00

Afaik it's kinda an unwritten rule to not mix things like e.g UEF shields with Cybran stealth in navies. However, usually this would apply to getting the tech from an ally; what I was wondering was if capturing was acceptable, considering the difficulty (compared to "can I have an engie")

And yes, this is pretty much for setons. In most cases people don't really seem to care; part of the game so it's fair.

(My reply to your comment below) Unwritten in the sense that no one has to say it.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 16 Jul 2013, 18:35

Re: Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T18:32:29+02:00

Unless there is a explicit rule inside the lobby (then it's up to you to respect it or not, as no one can enforce it), of course you can.

Even if it's a teammate that gave you the engy. Seton is not FA, and only a part of the players that play seton don't want mixed navy for obscures reasons.
It's up to them to make it clear before the game starts, or write a mod that disallow it entirely.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Jul 2013, 18:32

Mixed army/navy

2013-07-16T18:24:15+02:00

Just throwing this out here : While it's generally frowned upon to mix several faction's units into one army or navy, is it acceptable to do so if you take the required technology from someone by capture?

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 16 Jul 2013, 18:24