Mycen wrote:Nombringer wrote:All welcome means all welcome. If you are worried you cant balance it, either make it unrated or put a rating limit on.
The issue I am addressing is not whether the
host doesn't understand the concept of an "all welcome" game. I am responding to how DilliDalli said he would never kick anyone who was unbalancing a game, he would merely politely explain to them that they
should leave - as if there's a difference. If the other players in the game don't have a problem with the unbalancing player participating then the host need never become involved. If the other players won't start until the unbalancing player leaves, then, aside from kicking the other players, the host is already only marginally involved in whether the person leaves or not. To claim that it is "ultimately be their decision whether or not they wanted to play" may be a comfort to a host who doesn't like to kick people, but it will never be true.
I have hosted several "all welcome" games where I have a number of players who refuse to start until an unbalancing player is replaced. The only kind of player who wouldn't leave in that situation is one who is very selfish anyway, so in the end, the only difference between the host kicking them and the other players pressuring them to leave the game is how many people demonstrably do not understand the concept of "all welcome."
DilliDalli wrote:
The only time I find that balancing becomes difficult is when people refuse to move because they want to play with certain people. ... You simply don't get enough people of similar rating to have one wildy odd person out who throws the balance off.
Perhaps for you. This is a fairly common experience for me.
