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Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2014-06-22T19:39:08+02:00

Oh dear... not yet again someone with an AMD with a ton of slow cores.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 22 Jun 2014, 19:39

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2014-06-22T16:36:36+02:00

well... all i can add to this topic is that when i dont overclock i score better than when i do.

funny enough the more i overclock the worse my rating.

im running an FX 6100 3,3 at ~ 300 score
while overclocking to 4,0 results in 390 score.... so there is clearly something wrong.

other benchmark test show a significant increase in performance if i overclock.

Statistics: Posted by andybe — 22 Jun 2014, 16:36

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-10T20:58:12+02:00

Here ya go!

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 10 Apr 2013, 20:58

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-10T20:48:33+02:00

I do have Java, I reinstalled it just incase. Still no go
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Just downloaded the link you provided, seems to work. Gimme a few minutes. Also, post your request in the "Lets make simspeed benchmarks" Thread. Quiet a few 3770ks and lots of high tier cpus were over there.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 10 Apr 2013, 20:48

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-10T20:51:55+02:00

VoiceofReason wrote:
I downloaded and tried running your pack4 after I disabled Hyper threading. I have Windows 8; I run the file and it creates a 0byte html file with no data whatsoever. Think its a java issue, its hard to read the dialog it only shows for a sec.

You need to have Java. http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/ ... leId=75261 This is for x64 windows. You can verify it on the command line*1 by typing "java"

*1 Windows key + R, then type "cmd", then type "java".

Statistics: Posted by Raghar — 10 Apr 2013, 20:47

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-10T20:31:29+02:00

I downloaded and tried running your pack4 after I disabled Hyper threading. I have Windows 8; I run the file and it creates a 0byte html file with no data whatsoever. Think its a java issue, its hard to read the dialog it only shows for a sec.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 10 Apr 2013, 20:31

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-10T19:37:25+02:00

VoiceofReason wrote:
ColonelSheppard wrote:in a normaly game the difference between i5 and i7 is barely noticeable

In the simspeed benchmarks Im pretty sure a overclocked q6600 beats some i5s... Now, I'm a guy who went from a oc'ed q6600 to a 3770k. I know the difference, and its beyond noticeable.
Also, a Pentium showed better singlethread performance than that amd8core (food for thought)
Furthermore; to anyone thinking hyper threading has no benefit to gaming - hasn't tested with Forged Alliance. When I disable hyperthreading; my times for the simspeed benchmarks go right out to lunch, not even close to times recorded when its' on.

Can you run this? viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3514 It's a hyperthreading benchmark, and I still don't have enough samples to verify it's working properly. It looks like it's working properly however. Need few i5, i7, and FX-6300 or FX-83xx.

Q6600 had memory controller on MB and used DDR2, i5 has integrated memory controller and is using DDR3. Obviously there is large difference. IPC should be 1/4 better.

Duck_42 wrote:
Enough already with the "i7" vs "i5" vs "i3" comparisons. It's like saying "my NVidia card is better than your ATI card" without actually saying which MODEL you have.

Well my benchmark shows difference between these CPU types. The resulting numbers would be within 1/5 of correct value.

Of course, supcom is using LUA scripting which slows stuff a lot, and these CPUs don't need to be utilized at full potential.

ColonelSheppard wrote:
some noob with one backgrounfprogramm more everything is even
"450 rating sry"
"wait that is..."
*kick*
wtf
people dont think if they see numbers

How many times have you been kicked out?

Statistics: Posted by Raghar — 10 Apr 2013, 19:37

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T13:52:47+02:00

The lobby run it three times in a row now.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 09 Apr 2013, 13:52

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T13:46:47+02:00

btw if the test gives you a 450 like me, you can maybe fix it by running the test multiple times in a row (at least for me it fixed it)

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 09 Apr 2013, 13:46

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T13:35:30+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
in a normaly game the difference between i5 and i7 is barely noticeable

In the simspeed benchmarks Im pretty sure a overclocked q6600 beats some i5s... Now, I'm a guy who went from a oc'ed q6600 to a 3770k. I know the difference, and its beyond noticeable.
Also, a Pentium showed better singlethread performance than that amd8core (food for thought)
Furthermore; to anyone thinking hyper threading has no benefit to gaming - hasn't tested with Forged Alliance. When I disable hyperthreading; my times for the simspeed benchmarks go right out to lunch, not even close to times recorded when its' on.

Lastly, playing a game of FA while your pc is set to do powersaving schemes at idle or low usage; FAIL - Get a program to monitor and track frequency of your cores. You'll find the clock jumps all over the place while playing FA; limiting performance. You will not get equal performance EVER while your pc is set to save you power.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 09 Apr 2013, 13:35

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T13:23:56+02:00

It's all performance. They don't necessarily scale completely linearly, but they go hand in hand.

Statistics: Posted by Tango_X — 09 Apr 2013, 13:23

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T11:44:30+02:00

from what i know grafics have nothing to do with the simspeed

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 09 Apr 2013, 11:44

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T09:27:28+02:00

Regular Supcom has a built in benchmark test. It's a simulated match that runs for a few minutes with lots of stuff going on. At the end of it you receive a score, I beleive it is just avg. fps.

Would there be any way to add a shortcut for this test to the lobby and extract the score from it? It would be a very accurate test because it incorporates all the factors, and encourage people to trun the graphics down.

Statistics: Posted by Tango_X — 09 Apr 2013, 09:27

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T07:12:35+02:00

way too complicated solution for a simple problem. the current approach of doing a synthetic benchmark is the right way to go. it is certainly gonna be accurate.

It's not more complicated than the current approach. All it needs to do is retrieve the number of units in game and an adjusted sim speed and divide one by the other. The more games you play the more faithfully does the simspeed/unit # benchmark reflect your actual cpu performance.

Failing that, why not just retrieve the CPU name from the windows registry (HKLM/HARDWARE/DESCRIPTION/System/CentralProcessor) or by some API, and present that when you mouse-over a player's name or ping? e.g. Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz

Statistics: Posted by Combo — 09 Apr 2013, 07:12

Re: CPU speed benchmark is not even close

2013-04-09T06:38:36+02:00

-_V_- wrote:
ColonelSheppard wrote:in a normaly game the difference between i5 and i7 is barely noticeable

NOT

normal game =! setons

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 09 Apr 2013, 06:38