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Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-05T08:04:28+02:00

UEF destroer and UEF torpedo boat are very different units, and i like that now they have different icons, for me it is very easy to see the difference between uef destro and other uef units with same icon, but hard to see differece between destro and boat if they have same icon...

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 05 Mar 2013, 08:04

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T14:50:15+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
So if it is of so little concern to you, why not let us change it? If it's so trivial to you why oppose it it, why change it in the first place?

i was looking for a non offensive term to show my disagreement with that idea, if you only understand the no friendly here you go
"Making the cooper the same symbol as the Destroyer again is stupid, do you really have problems seeing the difference to spot a battleship out of of a group of destroyers? I dont think so"

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 04 Mar 2013, 14:50

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T09:34:05+02:00

VoiceofReason wrote:
on should be the same as other factions Destroyers. How this point is eluded, blows my mind.

Like pip said, to avoid confustion with the cooper.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 04 Mar 2013, 09:34

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T04:34:37+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
So if it is of so little concern to you, why not let us change it? If it's so trivial to you why oppose it it, why change it in the first place?

A trivial change for a stupid reason is still a stupid change.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 04 Mar 2013, 04:34

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T03:58:18+02:00

FunkOff wrote:
ColonelSheppard wrote:I think this is, to put it mildly, trivial.

I really don't understand why their panties are in a truffle.

.........In the end, the Destroyer is a Destroyer, and its' icon should be the same as other factions Destroyers. How this point is eluded, blows my mind.

Anaryl wrote:
So if it is of so little concern to you, why not let us change it? If it's so trivial to you why oppose it, why change it in the first place?

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 04 Mar 2013, 03:58

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T03:55:54+02:00

So if it is of so little concern to you, why not let us change it? If it's so trivial to you why oppose it it, why change it in the first place?

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 04 Mar 2013, 03:55

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-04T02:14:50+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
I think this is, to put it mildly, trivial.

I really don't understand why their panties are in a truffle.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 04 Mar 2013, 02:14

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-03T22:15:03+02:00

I think this is, to put it mildly, trivial.

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 03 Mar 2013, 22:15

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-03T18:05:16+02:00

pip wrote:
The icon change was all about distinguishing the UEF destroyer from the cooper, whatever shape you give them, it's more clear to have different symbols.

That is what I assumed also, but as confirmed by Funkoff; WRONG.

His intent was to give a more fitting icon to the UEF T2 Destroyer.

FunkOff wrote:
It was my idea. The UEF destroyer has laughable anti-sub capability, so the anti-sub icon doesn't make sense. It's more like a tech 2 battleship (good vs ships, bad vs subs/air) than anything else, so it has the icon to match.

...That right there is what we are debating.

I agree a icon change on the cooper would be beneficial for UEF as there is no difference between their anti-sub boat, and their Destroyer (However, I dont really care - many units in the same tier share icons). In the end, the Destroyer is a Destroyer, and its' icon should be the same as other factions Destroyers. How this point is eluded, blows my mind.

If the issue truly is the coopers indistingsuishability, then adress that; perhaps a Upside down "T", since we shouldn't flip the "halfmoon" because it is a surfice vessel. At least then, we arent assigning Entirely different icon representation, suggesting a different unit, suggesting a different purpose.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 03 Mar 2013, 18:05

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-03T16:00:47+02:00

The icon change was all about distinguishing the UEF destroyer from the cooper, whatever shape you give them, it's more clear to have different symbols.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 03 Mar 2013, 16:00

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-03T13:53:03+02:00

Yes, was such a brusque reply really necessary?

Whether the UEF destroyer fits into an arbitrary notion of what a Destroyer really is, is immaterial. It may not be as similar to the other destroyers but it is still less different to them than the ASW boat. The implication is thus, that the Cooper should be used in the Valiant's role, or in the same or similar way to Salems.

The Cooper is far closer related to the Mermaid or T2 subs than it is to the other destroyers. From a taxonomical perspective, the icon is incorrect.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 03 Mar 2013, 13:53

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-03T07:15:31+02:00

"I can tell you neither pay attention nor do research"......

...Rude. (Also, wtf are you talking about? I cannot find a connection between what you say, and that quote)...
Beyond that...

A Destroyer is a Torpedo Boat Destroyer. Hence the "T". Please replace it.
Just because the unit does not function as well, or the same as other factions' does mean it's a different unit than its' counterpart - Which, the different icon implies.
Destroyers' function is navel support - as you say its good vs ships, bad vs subs - ships are still navel.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 03 Mar 2013, 07:15

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-02T03:49:08+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
I kinda agree with VoR here.

The UEF T2 Surface vessels are now completely inconsistent with the rest of the factions. All the other destroyers have"anti-sub" icons, as well as the cooper, yet the destroyer is the only "direct fire" t2 surface vessel? It just doesn't make sense. I do agree that there needed to be a change to differentiate the two, but I think the cooper should have ave the single vertical line like the subs do, or a downward curve like the naval factories.

I can tell you neither pay attention nor do research: The cooper's icon is identical to the T2 subs' icons, with the exception that the hemisphere is inverted, because it's a surface vessel rather than a sub-surface one. Also, your first statement is true, but irrelevant because the UEF destroyer is unlike other destroyers, thus the unlike icon follows logic.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 02 Mar 2013, 03:49

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-02T03:21:35+02:00

I kinda agree with VoR here.

The UEF T2 Surface vessels are now completely inconsistent with the rest of the factions. All the other destroyers have"anti-sub" icons, as well as the cooper, yet the destroyer is the only "direct fire" t2 surface vessel? It just doesn't make sense. I do agree that there needed to be a change to differentiate the two, but I think the cooper should have ave the single vertical line like the subs do, or a downward curve like the naval factories.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 02 Mar 2013, 03:21

Re: UEF Destroyers' strategic icon

2013-03-01T22:56:43+02:00

and i think you can differ between a destroyer and a Galaxy class xD

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 01 Mar 2013, 22:56