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Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-06-02T00:42:41+02:00

On topic, i hadn't been on for some years. Life. But I'm back finally and loving all the changes. Wish i could remember my old sign in though...

When i played ranked, i enjoyed the smaller maps (no bigger than 10x10), but watching Gyle's casts of the 20x20 maps have peeked my interest.

Can't say much more in the topic, need to get sweaty again first.

Statistics: Posted by ConditionZero — 02 Jun 2020, 00:42

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-06-02T00:37:34+02:00

If you don't like to sweat, then get off the field Benny-boy.

But if you insist on still playing, and refuse to sweat, then don't worry about your rank and have fun.

Damn, what a cry baby...

Statistics: Posted by ConditionZero — 02 Jun 2020, 00:37

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-29T07:39:07+02:00

Scruffy wrote:
Endranii wrote:Voodoo? Emm, he said the word.

The thread has been cleaned.

We need to fire this janitor, it seems.

Statistics: Posted by biass — 29 May 2020, 07:39

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-29T07:21:55+02:00

Finally played some ladder for the first time in ages. New acquaintance of mine saw my latest game and is convinced that pillars and T2 tanks in general are useless and only mongoose/rocket bots are the only things that need to be built. idk if I agree with him yet but it sounds wrong like snow in July in the northern hemisphere

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 29 May 2020, 07:21

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-28T19:24:41+02:00

Endranii wrote:
Voodoo? Emm, he said the word.

The thread has been cleaned.

Statistics: Posted by Scruffy — 28 May 2020, 19:24

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-28T15:22:37+02:00

Voodoo? Emm, he said the word.

Statistics: Posted by Endranii — 28 May 2020, 15:22

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-28T12:09:34+02:00

I don't have an Instagram account, neither do I use shitter, toktok or snapscat. I got 99 problems and social media ain't one.

Statistics: Posted by Bennis- — 28 May 2020, 12:09

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-27T21:09:18+02:00

Stay away from social media until you got your shit together bud. It's only going to haunt you.

Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 27 May 2020, 21:09

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-27T12:18:10+02:00

I would love to play ladder to finally reach 2 k. I am doing a drug free month, I moved in with my girl and we have a meal plan and a workout plan (every morning) I'm looking better than ever and feel super fresh in the brain. But I'm banned from ladder for 3 months because I raged and called someone a nigger. Sucks. Ladder won't be the same without no bennis intimidating the likes of blodir

Statistics: Posted by Bennis- — 27 May 2020, 12:18

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-27T04:41:30+02:00

It would be nice to see either:
- How many people are currently searching
or
- How many people typically search at a given time of week/day

I've been "Searching for opponent" for 10 minutes now, would be nice to know when I can come back, or if anybody starts searching right as I'm about to give up.

I assume when there's an odd number of players, one player doesn't get matched -- would be nice to know if that's you, so you can wait for the next round (when presumably you're given priority).

I enjoy ladder mostly because I'm lower-ranked (1200 ladder, 1300 team) and struggle to feel like I have an impact on team games. In ladder I know, win or lose, it's 100% my fault. In a 5v5 Canis/Wonder/whatever, when two or three of your teammates die and you're crushing or even just drawing even with your mirror, it's like... really?

Statistics: Posted by codepants — 27 May 2020, 04:41

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-26T00:40:43+02:00

I play ladder a couple times a week, and its mostly fun. I recently expanded my pool of factions to aeon now too, because i would get crushed when playing them, but now they got buffed so i thought i will start playing them again.

I like the map pools most of time. But there is one map, i just cant play, and is the most cancer, and thats land wilderness.

However, ive noticed the more i play 20x20s, i see myself improving on them and enjoying them a lot more. I really enjoy 20x20s as i feel like there is many ways you can play them. Like t2 air rush, interceptor rush, comdrop, and a lot other more cheese.

Im additionally trying to improve on 1v1s as a whole recently, as i think eventually i can get 2k and compete. Im looking for someone to potentially train me if they want to aswell. But the only thing with that is that quite a few of my mistakes are mistakes im already trying to improve on and i think for the most part i know what im doing. But that could be wrong.

Theres one thing i cant get my head around though in ladder and thats just t1 spam. I personally think it doesnt require as much skill as other play styles and there just isnt much you can do about straight t1 spam, i feel as everytime i try to get t2 while spamming, the one factory difference seems to be the end of me. The only way i seem to be able to play against it is just spamming too, and whoever's com is out of position loses. I just find it very annoying to play against.

Anyway, just thought i'd share my experience too

Statistics: Posted by Hybrid_ — 26 May 2020, 00:40

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-18T18:04:14+02:00

I played a little bit Aeon today but it looks bad. I won 1 game out of 8 games. Aeon is realy hard to play. Auroras getting killed by t1 bombers, the game is over if you are too late on t2 and so on.

Or maybe I'm playing just bad ^^

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 18 May 2020, 18:04

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-16T09:39:05+02:00

Mr-Smith wrote:
Hey All,

Just got everything running yesterday and played a few ladder games, notices quite a lot new maps in the pool, but the look nice, need to invest time to learn them, I would like if we could have like 50% of the base maps in the pool, would make it easier for me to get the basics back up.

So far im a bit annoied by the new ladder timer, i assume it was that after a game ends and you research it would not match you vs the same player again instantly.
As it was mostly only one player searching it did not realy change anything.

Aso was not intuitve where to get all the UI mods. the vault in the python client seems buggy, while downlords vault seems to work

Also to get back in the top 10 again seems like quite a challange

I think they changed the ladder timer so that they can eventually make team matchmaking, so it's not a terrible trade off IMO if the rest of the playerbase can just jump into team games that aren't gap or astro with one click. Maybe we'll even get more ladder players out of it!

I 100% agree with how non-intuitive it is for newer players to get the useful UI mods (such as advanced reclaim info, advanced strategic icons etc). Would be great if the high ranked players as a whole came together and curated a list of mods that everyone agrees are very useful, and promote them to all ladder players without them having to do research on the forums for it. That being said, Keyser's mod list here is already pretty comprehensive!

Personally as a low ranked ladder player (1100ish) I don't think my opinion on the current state of the ladder really matters that much. I currently I only have a game-plan on two or three maps, and I'm just winging it on the rest by defaulting to some really generic stuff since I don't know the map. Whether that is good or bad for game-play experience as a new player, I can't really decide, as I'm usually too busy trying not to stall or trying to spend my mass (this gets much worse on maps that I don't know in general, and on maps that I do have a basic idea of how to play, I can generally spend less time trying not to have a terrible eco and spend more time moving units etc).

Statistics: Posted by Cetea — 16 May 2020, 09:39

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-16T01:47:41+02:00

Bennis- wrote:
I do agree with your analysis Keyser and it's the reason why tryhards like you Don't play ladder anymore. Because you are too proud or too lazy. Either too proud to reveal to the world that you are only medium brains on new maps or too lazy to learn the new maps and develop nice BOs or strategies for them.

I think small map pools force people to learn sweaty BOs and then when the mappool changes they become tired of learning sweat style BOs again. If there is a frequent rotation with new maps it makes it more easy to re-enter ladder after a while of inactivity or makes it more interesting to the cuasualt player to play a few games per rotation because you don't face extreme sweat. It also rewards freestylers like me. If you want to sweat go to setons. You are the prototype of a setonist.

Don't worry Bennis, i still crush you on new maps.

Although i agree that it might fright people off. Kinda why i would prefer a rating reset every 6 month with a change of maps. So everyone start from fresh.
Also i don't like the pace of setons.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 16 May 2020, 01:47

Re: Let's talk about Ladder (1vs1)

2020-05-16T00:19:02+02:00

I didn't play ladder In weeks so I have nothing more to contribute than to say that I didn't play ladder for weeks.

I do agree with your analysis Keyser and it's the reason why tryhards like you Don't play ladder anymore. Because you are too proud or too lazy. Either too proud to reveal to the world that you are only medium brains on new maps or too lazy to learn the new maps and develop nice BOs or strategies for them.

I think small map pools force people to learn sweaty BOs and then when the mappool changes they become tired of learning sweat style BOs again. If there is a frequent rotation with new maps it makes it more easy to re-enter ladder after a while of inactivity or makes it more interesting to the cuasualt player to play a few games per rotation because you don't face extreme sweat. It also rewards freestylers like me. If you want to sweat go to setons. You are the prototype of a setonist.

Statistics: Posted by Bennis- — 16 May 2020, 00:19