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Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T16:19:22+02:00

Syndicus12 you can write a private message to the moderators group here at the forum if you want to talk about actions taken against you. This thread isn't useful in anyway. If you think moderator x has decided y wrong then please use our report form and report him. Gorton will have a look at it. What you are doing here is providing unproofed claims.

We are always open for new ideas or improvements but please in a factual form.

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 04 Sep 2019, 16:19

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T12:55:22+02:00

Now just to state ,i'M impartial in this debate for i dislike both parties for various reasons . But i do not understand why this thread even exists. Sure we are community driven and freedom to the people and all ,but what behaviour syndicus has been showing and thinks is 'all in good fun' otherwise known as trolling, childish behaviour ,etc. is hurting the community in various ways. If such a person doesnt change after numerous reprimands from moderators and alike ,and he clearly didnt ,any normal community would bar said person from accessing its various forums for a long period. I know we are desperate for players ,but i dont think syndicus on his current path will help grow the community. I do not believe in perma bans ,people can change, but year long bans are quite useful. Look at what went on with Feather in the past ,how much effort was put into regulating 1 guy just becouse we(you?) allowed trolling in the wrong place and for a lenghtened period.(Including from me) See 'all in good fun' should never divert people from the community. Want to troll ? Troll your friends that have the time and understand you are trolling. People like Rox and other devs that put time and effort into the community (even if in ways i really dont agree with or so) should not be game. I have more things to say about maturity and lessons required but this is getting TLDR already.

Statistics: Posted by Lape — 04 Sep 2019, 12:55

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T08:41:15+02:00

Ok, Resistance, What are you on? I can't even understand what you're trying to say. When did I call someone shit, bc I dont recall.

Statistics: Posted by Syndicus12 — 04 Sep 2019, 08:41

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T08:39:55+02:00

Resistance wrote:
it's not even FAF rules, thosw are general human's society rules,

what?

Statistics: Posted by biass — 04 Sep 2019, 08:39

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T08:32:27+02:00

Also, I would like to see the love letters as well. I am HIGHLY interested in some new material to... ponder

Statistics: Posted by UnorthodoxBox — 04 Sep 2019, 08:32

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T08:30:43+02:00

Tbh,syndicus, got banned no because someone hates him, i was looking through all the stuff since the first kick, it's not even FAF rules, thosw are general human's society rules, that aren't giving you any rights to call someone shit or attempts to trigger him, however you got kicked like 10-12 times, on any other discord that would grow into a perma ban without even thinking

Statistics: Posted by Resistance — 04 Sep 2019, 08:30

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T08:24:16+02:00

I say we have total anarchy and people only get banned through witch hunts

Statistics: Posted by UnorthodoxBox — 04 Sep 2019, 08:24

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T07:48:38+02:00

Rox, You need to understand there are two people that this community can't stand. You happen to be one of them. Me pinging certain people, is all in good fun, and when they tell me to stop like Gorton does I do it. You bringing up all my history and use that against me to save yourself is pathetic. Ive been banned multiple occassions for the stupidest things. Unlike Gorton, he moderates the chat where he doesn't let you send certain messages like it should be done. You, solve most of your issues because you don't like doing your job by banning people immediately. The only thing that was missing is no one was calling you out on it. Most of my so called "trash" went into nsfw channel.

Statistics: Posted by Syndicus12 — 04 Sep 2019, 07:48

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T06:44:32+02:00

Hello, in today's discussion, I will be talking about the FAF Moderation team and talk about it in an analytical point of view.

So before you guys discuss of anything you might be interested in knowing what motives there are behind that post.
After having been warned kicked and banned many times (and i'm not talking about "mistakes in the past", i'm talking about recent stuff, like last few days/weeks), engaging in a toxic and/or harmful behavior on discord and on FAF aswell, harassment in PMs, antagonizing the mods and other persons in public, randomly pinging other people for no reasons in a repeated manner - Syndicus eventually got his permanent ban from the discord community.

Shortly after that, instead of questioning what might have led to this ban, Syndicus renamed as "anonymous" on discord and sent me PMs that we were the "worst moderators on FAF" because we were power abusing.
I don't expect anything productive to come out of this thread looking on how much defamation and hypocrisy the original post is built, so I will be prone to lock it if the second it goes off-road.

Losing a game, and out of rage, banning that said player. Completely unacceptable.

This was reported to happen over 2 years ago (before I was even active in FAF) and was immediately put to an end - and as I presume that you gather this from might-have-heards that other players communicated to you, you probably shouldnt bring it up given how your "mistakes of the past" are literally hours away from us.

Recommended: If the Community comes to a consensus with multiple reports to remove a person from a role that can be replaced by any other member in the community, the Councilors should look into the rebuke and come out with a solution. This would help moderate the Moderation team, and make sure its members are doing the right thing at all times.

We do have a councilor that is here precisely for that, so there is accountability for moderator actions. You know, the one you've pinged all the time on the discord before getting your ban, often for no reason, most of the time to provoke him.
You might want to make sure that your motives really are about helping the community (and not about your personal self) before messaging him to ask for accountability.
Gorton is very active and I'm sure he will love to hear you out, and answer.

Well some of the mods are teenagers, so you can see why there would be not that much professionalism.

That is only my opinion, but I think that having let Syndicus spill his trash on our official discord for so long before banning him permanently is the only mistake that we did regarding his case. To many extents, I feel like we've been once again, much too lenient with this kind of unacceptable behavior.

Statistics: Posted by Louvegarde — 04 Sep 2019, 06:44

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T02:08:14+02:00

Well some of the mods are teenagers, so you can see why there would be not that much professionalism.

Statistics: Posted by UnorthodoxBox — 04 Sep 2019, 02:08

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T00:31:24+02:00

Syndicus12 wrote:
Lack of Professionalism. Just like at any job, you have to be professional, and that is just like a FAF role, you must maintain that. Threats shouldn't be spewing through dialogue in the FAF discord, from a Mod to another player. Remember, this is a player based community. IN GAME: There should not be ANY punishments when a Mod plays with a player that has won a game. Example- Losing a game, and out of rage, banning that said player. Completely unacceptable.

I find that somewhat amusing I was under the impression that, considering how old this game is by now, there are adults here with a certain minimal moral and behavioural standard.

As a Mod you have to try to be more balanced, I agree. You have some previleges in the forum and in the community so you should be truthful and not abuse your "power". Like uncle Ben said: "With great power comes great responsibility"

Statistics: Posted by Thomy100 — 04 Sep 2019, 00:31

Re: FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T00:14:04+02:00

Syndicus12 wrote:
job

Did we start paying our mods salaries?

Statistics: Posted by Wesmania — 04 Sep 2019, 00:14

FAF and its Moderators

2019-09-04T00:05:05+02:00

Hello, in today's discussion, I will be talking about the FAF Moderation team and talk about it in an analytical point of view. Many of you may know my history with the Mods, and many of you probably don't. I have had multiple encounters with specific people that are on the team. In saying that I would like to simply state that specific people tarnish that role of a FAF Moderator. Not to say, there aren't any good ones because believe me, I know who the well spoken moderators are. If any moderator banters with a group of online people to an extent where they know they as well they have crossed the line, they should not punish another player for that same reason.

Lack of Professionalism. Just like at any job, you have to be professional, and that is just like a FAF role, you must maintain that. Threats shouldn't be spewing through dialogue in the FAF discord, from a Mod to another player. Remember, this is a player based community. IN GAME: There should not be ANY punishments when a Mod plays with a player that has won a game. Example- Losing a game, and out of rage, banning that said player. Completely unacceptable. NOW, if that said player was sending toxic dialogue, then punishment is acceptable, must provide evidence (replay, snapshot etc..)

Contact: In my personal opinion if you have a FAF Mod Role, you shouldn't have a casual conversation with the people in the discord server that involves bantering, this would help avoid having different views of a conversation and maintain moderation according to the TOS.

Recommended: If the Community comes to a consensus with multiple reports to remove a person from a role that can be replaced by any other member in the community, the Councilors should look into the rebuke and come out with a solution. This would help moderate the Moderation team, and make sure its members are doing the right thing at all times.

Feel free to suggest more.

Miscellaneous: If a said person is banned from the game or FAF discord, they should not have the ability to report something taken away.

- All issues stated have been done in the past. -

p.s. Yes I may have done some mistakes in the past, but that doesn't take away from the fact that these issues were ongoing before mine.

Statistics: Posted by Syndicus12 — 04 Sep 2019, 00:05