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Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-27T00:22:01+02:00

on osiris frigs are enough, you need to get the early enough though (and micro them so they dont get crushed by fobos)

Statistics: Posted by Turinturambar — 27 Mar 2019, 00:22

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-27T00:03:42+02:00

Plasma_Wolf wrote:
I just watched your last Osiris replay on high speed and my first impression is that you're outmatched in every level. If the opponent didn't have hover, you'd be losing to T2 navy or T2 air.

I wont argue that, usually i hold my own on coastal / inland maps but the island with hover is a nightmare.

Statistics: Posted by pchelka — 27 Mar 2019, 00:03

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T23:32:51+02:00

I just watched your last Osiris replay on high speed and my first impression is that you're outmatched in every level. If the opponent didn't have hover, you'd be losing to T2 navy or T2 air.

Specifically for this situation: you need more naval factories. You had two while your opponent was spamming all the artillery and had 3-5 naval factories. To deal with this sort of spam, you need to know where it's coming from (so you need proper scouting) and then send your frigates to block the nearest entrance to the water. Stay active in moving your frigates, so that they don't get hit by the enemy arties.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 26 Mar 2019, 23:32

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T22:30:41+02:00

Turinturambar wrote:
you need to give a mapname or so, because for some ppl 5x5 maps are small and for some ppl 20x20 maps are small.

Osiris is a good example

Statistics: Posted by pchelka — 26 Mar 2019, 22:30

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T16:05:08+02:00

Endranii wrote:
Blaze is utter shit and get's countered by frigates which are part of mix.

and you thing I spam blaze vs. frig+fobo spam?

no it is blaze+frigh+destro vs. fobo+frig+destro

maybe before saying shit, you should try that first

Statistics: Posted by ZeRen — 26 Mar 2019, 16:05

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T16:01:12+02:00

you need to give a mapname or so, because for some ppl 5x5 maps are small and for some ppl 20x20 maps are small.

Statistics: Posted by Turinturambar — 26 Mar 2019, 16:01

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T14:49:25+02:00

NapSpan wrote:
Basically go land T2 and make some bots with radars, rushing land T2 is common UEF anyway.

Well the problem is, this is very specific scenario - small multiple islands that are separated by water, this literally constrains any of T1 units to small area of action, and allows the T1 hover to concentrate on any selected island it wants.

So since I'm constrained to land, pillars are no go, only reptides, and going t2 takes time not sure if this helps. And all that time allows hover arty to basically stream around multiple islands and kill any expansion.

By the time i got some t2 reptites i can move around without the constrain to land - its to late.

So i guess it has to be T1 frigates,

Bombers don't do to much as they get killed by air and i cant get air superiority since i need to produce bombers. If i go for 1 to 3 bombers and ASF they just don't make enough of a difference for mass spam of hover and i don't have any land WHERE i need it (Constrained to small patches of islands)

I Admit my skill may not be up to par though so that is playing major role.

Statistics: Posted by pchelka — 26 Mar 2019, 14:49

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T10:09:50+02:00

My strategy , build 2 naval bases then pump 6 engies , 12 thunderheads and 7 tigersharks as fast as possible, then upgrade 1 of it to T2 naval baseand then build 1 bulwark ,1 Governor ,2 coopers and 3 valliants .

Statistics: Posted by ProfDARA — 26 Mar 2019, 10:09

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T08:22:11+02:00

Basically go land T2 and make some bots with radars, rushing land T2 is common UEF anyway.
Pd: to the guy bitching about hovers, they are fine. You need to learn how to deal with them.

Statistics: Posted by NapSpan — 26 Mar 2019, 08:22

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-26T00:32:17+02:00

Blaze is utter shit and get's countered by frigates which are part of mix.

Statistics: Posted by Endranii — 26 Mar 2019, 00:32

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-25T19:47:16+02:00

Bennis- wrote:
Oh and senton of course. Ever tried Aon Vs Sera naval rush?

I did, aeon have one amazing anti-fobo unit, called blaze, try that

btw. I dont like float arty either

Statistics: Posted by ZeRen — 25 Mar 2019, 19:47

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-25T19:05:22+02:00

Oh and senton of course. Ever tried Aon Vs Sera naval rush?

Statistics: Posted by Bennis- — 25 Mar 2019, 19:05

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-25T19:06:14+02:00

OP is right. Hover artillery doesn't add anything positive to the game and should be removed. It's plain unfair and therefore breaks certain maps like pizza and Finn's

Statistics: Posted by Bennis- — 25 Mar 2019, 19:04

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-25T10:45:57+02:00

Could you upload a replay (or give the replayID and your FAF name). It would help a lot if we can see where it goes wrong.

I think you have to have three posts on the forum before you're allowed to upload files.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 25 Mar 2019, 10:45

Re: UEF vs ser t1 arty spam on small watter map

2019-03-25T09:14:05+02:00

heavy depends on the map... there could be maps where hover gives big advantage... you can also try useing t1 bombers

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 25 Mar 2019, 09:14