Forged Alliance Forever Forged Alliance Forever Forums 2018-09-07T14:35:07+02:00 /feed.php?f=2&t=16663 2018-09-07T14:35:07+02:00 2018-09-07T14:35:07+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167348#p167348 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
FtXCommando wrote:
To be frank I have zero idea who Play of the Week is meant to appeal to on YouTube. The people that have played SupCom and get bored one day and look up videos of the game are an informed audience and do not really need to be “hooked” into the game by videos like Play of the Week as they already likely had a predisposition to RTS gameplay if they played/heard of FA before.

To me it feels like you’re trying to appeal to the dudes that somehow youtube channel surf their way to a fringe RTS game they never heard of and know nothing about. However the problem with that in my mind is that we don’t have that group of people to “lose” without these videos. Before this attempt to bait people to play FAF through some “epic play montage” can work, you’d need someone on FAF to become a major pro Fortnite streamer so he could explain his sense of 146 IQ strategy came from this decade old RTS.

Skimming through the titles of your plays of the week, it looks like it’s mostly high level players that get into the videos. Now, when you say that you want the community to strive for something, what is that supposed to mean? I don’t really think I’ve heard of any of the top players really talk about the videos. Again it seems like we’re missing a middle step here in community development. Montage videos of Shroud’s epic plays or s1mple really only work because there is a group of players that either are incredibly interested in top players on a personal level or they have a deep interest in improving themselves and so idolize those players.

I’d say you’re better off giving attention to lower level players through your series in order to develop this “middle class” of players that doesn’t exist on FAF.


This is really really good feedback and actually things I've considered before. But yes, I've been working on some attention grabbers (uef Outpost video for example). Just things like that I'm experimenting with. Something that just makes someone go "ok, what is that". Maybe spawn a search and find us. But it's still a work in progress. Being such a small channel, it's tough to gauge how to properly focus videos. But, a montage is a very good idea. I'll definitely look into that. I remember tokyto doing a beetle snipe montage that I absolutely loved. Gyle is the one that drew me into this game. Crazy right? 2014 feels like yesterday. :)

But in short, I read through all of your response, and I'll reread again and see where I can apply some changes in the near future video sets.

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 07 Sep 2018, 14:35


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2018-09-07T14:29:10+02:00 2018-09-07T14:29:10+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167347#p167347 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
Katharsas wrote:
Use a spectrum analyzer. They look like this:
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They show you which frequencies a piece of audio has.
These are usually available for pretty much any audio program and even music players (foobar). Check out the main frequencies of your voice (as picked up bye your mic) and then use equalizer to reduce those frequences in your music. That way you don't have to reduce music volume too much to make it easier to understand your voice.

Or just reduce music volume at some parts where your voice is too hard to understand. For example in the first link to Play of the Week your voice is very hard to understand at the end, especially for non-native speakers. This happens some of your other videos as well.

Edit:
Also, your voice is probably missing some clarity and higher frequencies. Seems to be a mic issue, maybe it's picking up too much bass. Maybe try a different mic. Generally be very careful with low frequencies (bass). They can make your mix incredibly muddy and destroy clarity, for example if you have too much shit going on in those frequencies or if they aren't properly cut down/compressed.
If you give me a raw unedited voice sample i can have a look at it.



Hell to the yes, this is super helpful thank you so much

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 07 Sep 2018, 14:29


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2018-09-07T14:27:51+02:00 2018-09-07T14:27:51+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167346#p167346 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
EvanGalea wrote:
IMO you might want to choose two to stick to for now.

Something open ended like the Random Nonsense can give you more freedom and possibly material, but the lack of structure can make it harder to start something when there's no groundwork to go on.

I also like the format where you shorten your own gameplay into it's most interesting/funny moments (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuuU9vrqWo). I guess it falls under number 2.


First, sorry for slow response. Worked a back to back 48hr shift at the station and then passed out for 13 hours when I got home.

Input is noted, and I actually couldn't agree more. Sometimes I do ransoms videos to break the monotony, but to have yet to commit to a structure. So here's to starting the attempt lol

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 07 Sep 2018, 14:27


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2018-09-06T15:58:22+02:00 2018-09-06T15:58:22+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167317#p167317 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Image

They show you which frequencies a piece of audio has.
These are usually available for pretty much any audio program and even music players (foobar). Check out the main frequencies of your voice (as picked up bye your mic) and then use equalizer to reduce those frequences in your music. That way you don't have to reduce music volume too much to make it easier to understand your voice.

Or just reduce music volume at some parts where your voice is too hard to understand. For example in the first link to Play of the Week your voice is very hard to understand at the end, especially for non-native speakers. This happens some of your other videos as well.

Edit:
Also, your voice is probably missing some clarity and higher frequencies. Seems to be a mic issue, maybe it's picking up too much bass. Maybe try a different mic. Generally be very careful with low frequencies (bass). They can make your mix incredibly muddy and destroy clarity, for example if you have too much shit going on in those frequencies or if they aren't properly cut down/compressed.
If you give me a raw unedited voice sample i can have a look at it.

Statistics: Posted by Katharsas — 06 Sep 2018, 15:58


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2018-09-05T17:32:55+02:00 2018-09-05T17:32:55+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167294#p167294 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Statistics: Posted by Athena — 05 Sep 2018, 17:32


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2018-09-05T08:15:27+02:00 2018-09-05T08:15:27+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167279#p167279 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Statistics: Posted by Lu_Xun_17 — 05 Sep 2018, 08:15


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2018-09-05T07:27:19+02:00 2018-09-05T07:27:19+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167277#p167277 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 05 Sep 2018, 07:27


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2018-09-05T06:38:17+02:00 2018-09-05T06:38:17+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167276#p167276 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
To me it feels like you’re trying to appeal to the dudes that somehow youtube channel surf their way to a fringe RTS game they never heard of and know nothing about. However the problem with that in my mind is that we don’t have that group of people to “lose” without these videos. Before this attempt to bait people to play FAF through some “epic play montage” can work, you’d need someone on FAF to become a major pro Fortnite streamer so he could explain his sense of 146 IQ strategy came from this decade old RTS.

Skimming through the titles of your plays of the week, it looks like it’s mostly high level players that get into the videos. Now, when you say that you want the community to strive for something, what is that supposed to mean? I don’t really think I’ve heard of any of the top players really talk about the videos. Again it seems like we’re missing a middle step here in community development. Montage videos of Shroud’s epic plays or s1mple really only work because there is a group of players that either are incredibly interested in top players on a personal level or they have a deep interest in improving themselves and so idolize those players.

I’d say you’re better off giving attention to lower level players through your series in order to develop this “middle class” of players that doesn’t exist on FAF.

Statistics: Posted by FtXCommando — 05 Sep 2018, 06:38


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2018-09-05T06:29:06+02:00 2018-09-05T06:29:06+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167275#p167275 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Statistics: Posted by Evan_ — 05 Sep 2018, 06:29


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2018-09-05T06:20:48+02:00 2018-09-05T06:20:48+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167274#p167274 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
EvanGalea wrote:
IMO you might want to choose two to stick to for now.

Something open ended like the Random Nonsense can give you more freedom and possibly material, but the lack of structure can make it harder to start something when there's no groundwork to go on.

I also like the format where you shorten your own gameplay into it's most interesting/funny moments (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuuU9vrqWo). I guess it falls under number 2.



I agree with you. So short cast/POV games with edits for higher production quality. With play of the week? I think that one helps community strive for something. But I also want to help people get into this...I'm torn.

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 05 Sep 2018, 06:20


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2018-09-05T06:19:01+02:00 2018-09-05T06:19:01+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167273#p167273 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
Athena wrote:
I recommend not using the word shenanigans.


That's asking too much of me...

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 05 Sep 2018, 06:19


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2018-09-05T06:15:03+02:00 2018-09-05T06:15:03+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167272#p167272 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]> Statistics: Posted by Athena — 05 Sep 2018, 06:15


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2018-09-05T06:07:16+02:00 2018-09-05T06:07:16+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167271#p167271 <![CDATA[Re: I need your input for community series]]>
Something open ended like the Random Nonsense can give you more freedom and possibly material, but the lack of structure can make it harder to start something when there's no groundwork to go on.

I also like the format where you shorten your own gameplay into it's most interesting/funny moments (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuuU9vrqWo). I guess it falls under number 2.

Statistics: Posted by Evan_ — 05 Sep 2018, 06:07


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2018-09-05T01:33:36+02:00 2018-09-05T01:33:36+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=16663&p=167259#p167259 <![CDATA[I need your input for community series]]> seriously though, I do need a sample set so my time is more justified.

I need to know what you would like to see more of. PLEASE let me know by commenting on this thread or PM.
Below each one is a sample of the videos as reference.

1: Play of the Week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlnao1qeFHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiVsziV1C3w

2: Cast style videos (but edited)
https://youtu.be/aMtuTC5Re70?list=PLfox ... ibnh-cNYKh
https://youtu.be/i_VmByZsipk?list=PLfox ... ibnh-cNYKh

3: WTF tutorials
Playlist --> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... EQTjHmXvoj

4: Random Nonsense
https://youtu.be/U1Td2Gaodog?list=PLfox ... N48thIrFvN
https://youtu.be/YLE8ZBJgdHw?list=PLfox ... N48thIrFvN
https://youtu.be/MAy7VQmFnKs?list=PLfox ... N48thIrFvN
https://youtu.be/qweea1-lyOg?list=PLfox ... N48thIrFvN

As always, if you have suggestions on top of that, feel free to let me know. ALWAYS open to criticism.

Context: Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't really ask; but, I'm in school full time, I have a 4 day old baby, I work 65hrs a week, and I just finished building my house. So I'm just looking to maximize my time and effort.

glhf,
Your friendly neighborhood Medic

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 05 Sep 2018, 01:33


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