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Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-26T19:27:59+02:00

tryed few cases, shielded paragon is not exactly that easy to kill
EDIT: Properly shielded (see as i tested it, exploding t1 pgen under shield right next to para did not damage para, i guess that is one way how you can test if you shield it nice, tho that method does not work great against arty, since a direct hit will damage all shields at once and breaking trought shot will do partual damage after shield will go down)

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 26 Jan 2018, 19:27

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-26T19:06:15+02:00

Even worse is that this is all possible, but they did remove it for the extremely overpowered sats

Statistics: Posted by EcoNoob — 26 Jan 2018, 19:06

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-26T16:32:13+02:00

I might be overly cynical, but when 45 thousand units of metals, plastics and broken dreams falls on something volatile, it should do some damage...

Statistics: Posted by uzurpator — 26 Jan 2018, 16:32

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-26T00:10:07+02:00

Never heard of it before, and not like i care.

Why even mention it

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 26 Jan 2018, 00:10

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-26T00:09:01+02:00

Or you could use the shield bug to not take damage from crashing T4

You didn't hear that from me though

Statistics: Posted by JoonasTo — 26 Jan 2018, 00:09

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-25T23:50:58+02:00

So i tested it with aeon t3 shields. You need 15 of them to let your para survive (Maybe 1 less but after i removed the 15th shield it died to ahwassa ctrl k, but i can't be bothered to test each different shield 1 by 1 for something like this).
So unless you have some perfect fucking math placement calculations that requires lots of sandbox whoring you need 15 aeon t3 shields to let it survie an ahwassa ctrl k. It survives with 100% hp. When you remove 1 shield the paragon instantly takes 10k dmg and explodes.

And this was tested in sandbox ofc. In real games you often want t1 pd next to your para, and maybe you place a t3 shield 1 centimeter to the wrong place that will cause your para to not survive an ahwassa or czar ctrl k. Very nice kappa

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Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 25 Jan 2018, 23:50

Re: t4 crash damage

2018-01-25T20:44:01+02:00

if you place your shields properly then you can avoid the crash dmg
sandbox with some t3 shields that don't cover the smd properly and then better shielding

Statistics: Posted by PhilipJFry — 25 Jan 2018, 20:44

t4 crash damage

2018-01-25T20:26:36+02:00

If i remember correctly crash damage was already nerfed by adding the shield bounce, but imo it's still a bit silly that czars and ahwassa's can 1 shot para's/smd's/etc even when they're shielded by 20 t3 shields. I know that these sort of strategies aren't that often used because they require a huge amount of mass but whenever i see it happen it still feel like me (or my opponent) is being cheated on.

So what i personally like to see is that shields would remove more crash damage.

Please don't use the "YoU CoUlD'vE InVeStEd In A AsF/SaMS" argument. We all know that one team is bound to win air control sooner or later (it barely happens when nobody has aircontrol for the entire game) and in the gamestage i'm talking about there's enough mass income to rush these t4's quite fast so asf to counter them isn't an option, and we all know that unless you invest an insane amount of mass into sams the t4 will still most likely make it through and fall on your base.

I know this is all very specific and i'm not saying we should balance around this idea (because it mostly happens on gap/dual gap games kappa (or the rare hilly or wonder)), but imo this won't change any other gamestage at all so it shouldn't have a negative impact (aside from people that use this tactic not liking it kappa).

I don't actually care that much because i very very rarely see this happen, but i still think it's something that should not exist in the game.

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 25 Jan 2018, 20:26