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Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-13T04:57:44+02:00

unitkeygroups.lua might be a good start. I wonder if it's hooking correctly.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 13 May 2017, 04:57

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-13T03:08:29+02:00

I have tried hotbuildex, it still has the same old problem.
At the start of a game it is required to open the keybinding menu with F1 and close it for the keybindings to work.

The hotbuild key bindings that are integrated into faf do work at the start of the game.

What would be interesting to know is where in the lua code the keybindings are initiated or something.
If it were possible to do that in hotbuildex, then we would have a working solution to customize the key layout.

Icedreamer, do you have any idea where to look in the code?

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 13 May 2017, 03:08

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-12T02:38:30+02:00

who's the stupid guy who mad lobby them for cybran full red text ?
did he want to make us blind ?
WTF you dont have a GFX guy ?

How shit like that can happends ?

OMG can't play with Cybran

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 12 May 2017, 02:38

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-12T02:30:09+02:00

Ahhhhhhhh. Dammit, sorry. I knew there'd be things I'd forgotten to do. Bah humbug!

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 12 May 2017, 02:30

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-12T01:32:34+02:00

IceDreamer wrote:
@prototype - buildingtab was a terrible name, but you're right that unitkeygroups isn't THAT much better. hotbuildkeygroups?

Kind of sad that you did not change it into 'hotbuildkeygroups', that would make it more logical.

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 12 May 2017, 01:32

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-12T01:19:26+02:00

IceDreamer wrote:
I'm really not sure what you mean. Perhaps you could MSPaint a mockup for me?

Been reading a bit on the forum and also read the patch 3680 deployment info.
I guess I have just been doing something very similar to hotbuildex.

Before hotbuild was integrated into faf I used to have a modified hotbuild version, just a modifed layout.
After hotbuild was integrated into faf I probably stumbled upon hotbuildex and modified that.

The problem with hotbuildex was that you had to use F1 at the start of every game to open the key binding menu and close it again to enable the key bindings.
But if I used the keys that were in the hotbuilding.tab that was integrated in the faf client, then I did not have that problem.
So I ended up changing hotbuildex into using the faf build in keys and customizing them to my needs while having them working at the start of the game.

The thing is that I need a couple more keys to bind as faf has added units/buildings, so I am looking for a way to get more keys working under the integrated hotbuild.

Hope that makes sense

Ill try the new hotbuildex in combination with the new client patch in the near future and see how and if it works.
I have already been trying to find you in #Aeolus to see if I could perhaps explain it to you in chat or voicechat.
But I have not seen you around yet.

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 12 May 2017, 01:19

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-09T00:05:55+02:00

imo you should have at least a little drawback using auto OC vs manual OC. Can be a little bit slower OC for example. As i said there is also advantage : OC while walking (if manual OC, com stop to OC), no attention needed.
The only drawback that we have right now is that auto OC will shoot at whatever come in range first, so it can waste lots of e on a scout for example.
and i repeat myself again but auto OC is faster than manual OC right now since it remove some UI lag (or something like that)

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 09 May 2017, 00:05

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-08T22:59:31+02:00

Ah didn't know about the targeting priority. Which files are they in or is it engine side? I would like to take a look. 1.5 second difference stills seems like a lot. I'm In favour of micro to some degree but having a weapon actually shoot faster when microed seems to set a precedent. I guess it could be argued that previously there was no auto-OC at all so anything is better than that if one is not microing, but it still doesn't seem logical to me. Wouldn't the best micro be to switch between manual and auto-OC as required?

Statistics: Posted by R_Charger — 08 May 2017, 22:59

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-08T20:41:15+02:00

it already target the higher tech unit in range.
right now auto OC is faster than normal OC. It also allow to OC while moving, and of course require 0 attention.
don't remove micro from the game.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 08 May 2017, 20:41

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-08T20:31:57+02:00

Whys the auto-OC fire rate changed? Its not as those you could pick targets so anyone micro-ing already gets an advantage in that they can pick their shots to target the important T2/T3 units attacking their ACU. If all thats attacking are T3 then of course it makes sense to switch to auto-OC to maximise fire rate. Fire rate of a unit changing when micro-ed seems a step too far in favour of high-APM players. Isn't this a strategy game?

Statistics: Posted by R_Charger — 08 May 2017, 20:31

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-06T22:03:29+02:00

I'm really not sure what you mean. Perhaps you could MSPaint a mockup for me?

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 06 May 2017, 22:03

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-06T21:05:12+02:00

Currently hotbuild is short of 'keys' to assign, at least to my taste.
Since the introduction of T3 MAA and HQ factories.

If there were a couple of more 'keys' to assign in the hotbuild tab it would make it easy for me to bind them to what I want without breaking stuff.

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 06 May 2017, 21:05

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-05-01T02:43:47+02:00

If you could add a couple more key variables to hotbuild.tab, that would be great.

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 01 May 2017, 02:43

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-04-26T22:31:48+02:00

IceDreamer wrote:
A major part of this update has been getting everything so we CAN have presets. If you can find a good number of people who use your setup, I may consider adding it as a new preset permanently.

It would be much nicer if it were possible to change the layout instead of choosing a preset.

I have tried to get my old layout working but it seems hotbuild uses new variables like 'builders' instead of '_Zulan_13_E' etc
After some fiddling I managed to add new variables and bind some actions to them, they work only after I use a build in hotbuild key like "builders"
It seems the keys are initialised or something in the code, but I do not really know where that happens.
Also I saw that keybindings are shown in the buildmenu, which also does not appear for the variables I introduced.

Can you give me any clue where to look for it?
Or should I make a post in the mod section?

Statistics: Posted by prototype — 26 Apr 2017, 22:31

Re: Patch 3680 Beta Preview

2017-04-20T22:54:27+02:00

Hmmmm. It seems something may have gone wrong with the deployment... I'll take a looksie.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 20 Apr 2017, 22:54