Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-03-02T13:26:30+02:00

- You could let them play against each other and set the time they can not attack to ~15 mins (if possible).
- also use the mod "only time matters" or the mod where the mexes produce more mass.
explain to them (the best is at a lanparty) going from friend to friend, how to build and how adjacency works.
-let them build all the units that exist

- hopfully they like a faction the most and love then some experimentals. then you have them addicted

- do not let them get frustrated: "Why is my PD shooting in the ground??!?!GRML" while the other is using mobile TMLs or arty.

- after this introductoin, let them play something different and at home they can play for themselfes.

- give them a homework: develop a tactic that would break the defensive lines of the opponent, how to do an airdrop or a sneak attack. show them the differences between the faction.
show them the thousand ways to die.

and please, when you are done with it, tell us how it went.

and don't be sad when only 30% of them like the game (at least this is the ratio who still likes the game after he has lost the first time ). losing in FA is a pain as we all know.....

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 02 Mar 2017, 13:26

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-03-01T16:06:17+02:00

You could set up a team land game and turn off air .Show them an easy BO and see how it goes.

Statistics: Posted by Gr1nder — 01 Mar 2017, 16:06

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T22:43:52+02:00

Exotic_Retard wrote:
which bscly says build factory first could be cool too.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =121500535

4/5 stars

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Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 28 Feb 2017, 22:43

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T20:42:28+02:00

If someoene writes a concept for that I can code it as well

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 28 Feb 2017, 20:42

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T19:43:23+02:00

that tutorial speed showed is for ladder - something in the style of the original but better would not be bad - the tutorial explains the basics but lets you play with a couple of the bigger toys at the end - something like that as an introductory mission would not be bad at all imho

then a separate introduction to multiplayer which bscly says build factory first could be cool too.

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 28 Feb 2017, 19:43

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T18:46:21+02:00

They haven't played the game before so they don't know what they want :/

And not sure if either gap or thermo are such great maps for first impression.

Statistics: Posted by KeyBlue — 28 Feb 2017, 18:46

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T17:58:41+02:00

Let them play whatever they want

Thermo and gap are probably a good place to start

Really.

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 28 Feb 2017, 17:58

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-28T13:51:03+02:00

Start by playing a skirmish all togeather vs ai, and lead them to the victory. Then after they start understund the basic, make them face each other in 1vs1 with you adviser. And finish with a coop

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 28 Feb 2017, 13:51

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T23:13:07+02:00

Speed -- I bow down to you. That's impressive work. With tutorials of this calibre, in the game, new players can really benefit.

Statistics: Posted by Sprouto — 27 Feb 2017, 23:13

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T21:01:58+02:00

speed2 wrote:
Coming soon™

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Awesoooooome!!!!!!

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 27 Feb 2017, 21:01

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T20:44:52+02:00

Coming soon™

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Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 27 Feb 2017, 20:44

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T20:34:35+02:00

there is no magic fix to this.

however there are lots of small things we can do that will add up to make things less difficult.

things like:
-better unit descriptions - we can have them say what the unit should be used for
-more intuitive systems - for example the current overcharge requires you to know that you need a storage built to use it - this is burden of knowledge
-less punishment - if you dont build tmd you are going to have a bad time. while fixing this particular example is very difficult we should avoid things where if you dont know something you just lose
-better tutorials - a set of MP ones would be nice, also a tutorial for the faf lobby would be good on first login; too many people ask questions about that.
-an environment where new players can play vs equally new players - currently such a thing doesnt really exist, at least not in a properly functioning way.

supcoms skill ceiling is currently beyond uncapped - we can lower it a lot and still no one will be affected by it.
however its skill floor is also extremely high - just the sheer amount of stuff you need to know to win your first game vs ai is a lot. We cant reduce this to nothing but we can avoid raising it even more.

well or sth like that anyway, but who cares right? xD

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 27 Feb 2017, 20:34

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T20:23:26+02:00

Unfortunately the tutorial is trash so better to just play vs ai and play campaign for idk a good month? Everything I really learned from offline, which except for knowledge of mechanics and units, was completely irrelevant to competitive multiplayer

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 27 Feb 2017, 20:23

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T20:17:19+02:00

There are just people who don't want to think (on this scale) when relaxing/playing a game. All people I tried to hook on SC:FA don't play Starcraft 2 either.

And maybe the speed and "stress" has also something to do with it.

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 27 Feb 2017, 20:17

Re: Giving my friends a good first impression

2017-02-27T20:12:25+02:00

Ok - so refer to that - since most new players won't make the leap from that first game to a trainer. What were you getting from those first few offline games that could have been improved to shorten that learning curve ? For myself, I always tell new players to play the tutorial - but that doesn't always cut it - since many of them think ' Hey ! I play Starcraft. I can handle this.'

Statistics: Posted by Sprouto — 27 Feb 2017, 20:12