Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-12T03:13:01+02:00

I don't know why you guys are talking about $$. It seems clear that we DONT have a problem getting new players. We have a big problem keeping them.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 12 Dec 2016, 03:13

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T23:21:42+02:00

Yeah, please don't link to grey market stuff, at least in public threads.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 11 Dec 2016, 23:21

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-12T00:44:58+02:00

Blodir wrote:
I get it, and it's really a shame, but we don't want to appear to advocate grey market

we don't need to.

this has to be one of the most frequently on sale steam game and when it's on sale it's under 2€ (or 3€ depending on the sale) when it's not it's 10€ never 20

on STEAM STORE.

you know what it doesn't even matter. it's very easy to have that number be pulled automatically from steam store page when the page loads.

class="game_purchase_price price"

Code:: $(function() { snippet = $('.game_purchase_price').html; $.post('http://store.steampowered.com/app/9420/', {content: snippet}); });

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 11 Dec 2016, 21:22

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T21:20:34+02:00

Evildrew wrote:
Of course balance changes which have made the game unstable for people to play in is not helping at all. What sociologically has been studied is that people like stability, because even though its is enjoyable to learn the game when you start, it is not enjoyable to relearn it every 2 months when the balance terrorists change the entire game.

BS
Shaking up the status quo is really helping, it gave me an incentive to play simply because I'm not the only one who has to learn some things.
But looking from the perspective of a long time RTS player, the FAF balance is still pretty bad. It has improved a lot but it still has a long way to go imho.

Statistics: Posted by SpoCk0nd0pe — 11 Dec 2016, 21:20

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T20:58:14+02:00

Yeah please don't encourage buying stolen keys.

Statistics: Posted by PhilipJFry — 11 Dec 2016, 20:58

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T20:51:51+02:00

I agree with blodir to keep links to 100% legal sites. (no clue about the sites linked, so no need to argue with me about their validity)

But if both links sell it for a price of half or less, i'm not sure why you talk about 20 instead of 10... Basicly double the cost...

Statistics: Posted by KeyBlue — 11 Dec 2016, 20:51

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T20:41:30+02:00

I bought it from here:

[LINK REMOVED, Gorton]

for ~2 euro, steam key

traslate to english by google could work I think

Statistics: Posted by ZeRen — 11 Dec 2016, 20:41

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T20:17:25+02:00

Blodir, I know ebay can be tricky, but Kinguin is actually a legit source. I am not sure if people who buy it for 20 and find out they could have got it for less than 10% that price, that they will be happy chappies

It's a tricky decision how to point to where you can get it, but maybe you can include that you can use the cd key of the game to get it on steam without paying, that was something i didnt know and surely people who have a faulty cd that doesnt work anymore like me will be happy to get back on at no cost.

I personally am the kind of noob type buyer who sees a link to steam with it at $20 and doesnt think to look around to see if any other sources sells the same key for less
So maybe giving some more info about how to get it without appearing to point out only 2 possible sources would give enough hint to people that they can shop around and get a better deal. Then again with it currently at about $8.50 - 10.00 on the 2 mentioned sources, it is well under $20 currently. Lets call ithe buying process freedom of choice

Statistics: Posted by Evildrew — 11 Dec 2016, 20:17

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T19:47:42+02:00

Viba wrote:
Thank these people for the website work, https://github.com/FAForever/website/gr ... ntributors

I'm only a messenger

I agree with some points EvilDrew brought up, some have already been discussed with people making the website. Like the 20$ pricetag, for me it also seems too high, I remember it took me an extra month or two before I actually bought the game from steam, after all it is an old game. If I knew I could get it for 2-3$ I would've bought it on the spot I found FAF.

I get it, and it's really a shame, but we don't want to appear to advocate grey market

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 11 Dec 2016, 19:47

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T19:46:46+02:00

Viba,

We just need to help new potential players make the right choice, low price means low risk and will remove the barrier of entry for some. On the other hand if they dont like it, they might be quicker to dump it, so in theory maybe we increase retention by advertising the higher price but have lower retention and more unique users over time if we promote the lower price tags.

I actually bought my steam game on ebay for €5 from some opportunist i guess and then when i saw the kinguin cheap ass price few months later so i got some more for a friend and another for my brother

Statistics: Posted by Evildrew — 11 Dec 2016, 19:46

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T19:28:06+02:00

Thank these people for the website work, https://github.com/FAForever/website/gr ... ntributors

I'm only a messenger

I agree with some points EvilDrew brought up, some have already been discussed with people making the website. Like the 20$ pricetag, for me it also seems too high, I remember it took me an extra month or two before I actually bought the game from steam, after all it is an old game. If I knew I could get it for 2-3$ I would've bought it on the spot I found FAF.

Statistics: Posted by Viba — 11 Dec 2016, 19:28

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T19:22:35+02:00

Viba wrote:
The new webpage is basically complete and will be pushed soon: https://test.faforever.com/

holy shit that is like a billion bagillion times better well done!

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 11 Dec 2016, 19:22

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T19:04:14+02:00

Viba wrote:
The new webpage is basically complete and will be pushed soon: https://test.faforever.com/

Soon is the word of choice since I joined the dev team in May . But yes, we are closer than ever before.

Statistics: Posted by Brutus5000 — 11 Dec 2016, 19:04

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T14:56:10+02:00

Viba,

I think some simple things could be changed on that website to improve it.

Screenshots
Multiplayer:
*Currently it is up to 16 players
*screenshot of names is a bad choice (it conveys no meaning to new people seeing some in game names), rather show the client (play tab) to show the games being hosted with variety of maps and highlight "create custom game" and game types (beta etc)
Co-Op
SCreenshot not conveying the message
*maybe use a screenshot of 2 ACU side by side overcharging an exp or something
Modding
+good picture
*include mention of map making somewhere
Community
*friendlist community? -_________-
-Maybe point out gamers of all kind (for inclusiveness) i.e. competitive, and causal (to use positive terms)

Other:
1 page
*not clear that you can scroll down
*looks empty, but main picture looks awesome
*Maybe some videos like in the main menu of the game on the bottom left and right of the first page could fill it up.
*Leaderboards out of date
*<$20 price guidance is not good, i bought a copy for €1.50 for my brother on Kinguin in 2014 i believe, people might look at a 10 year old game and think $20 is a bit much, we need to lower the perceived cost.
*Maybe link to the current cheapest offer for FAF, updated every week or so.

FA €2.64 right now on Kinguin, that's about $2.75
[LINK REMOVED, Gorton]

Statistics: Posted by Evildrew — 11 Dec 2016, 14:56

Re: Questions for Tokyto_

2016-12-11T05:43:05+02:00

The new webpage is basically complete and will be pushed soon: https://test.faforever.com/

Statistics: Posted by Viba — 11 Dec 2016, 05:43