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Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-13T20:34:40+02:00

Auto overcharge has the drawback that it OC a t1 scout over shooting at the ACU. For people with skill, they can walk OC manually and keep walking, but then again a lot of people with little skill but wanting a placebo solution to be able to do what the big boys do

Auto toggle is about decision making being taken away from the player. Sure the noob performs a little better when he only needs to eco and not micro his units but is this what we want? Less control and less distinction between good and great players.

Same issues as with balance ideology by Sock in general, extending the t1 and t2 phase by increasing costs of factory upgrades, doesnt account for ecoing getting relatively stronger versus going for troops, hence turtling made easier. Dont see why we want to extend t1 and t2 phases this way, maybe so 1v1 games last on average 8 minutes instead of the previous 7.5 minutes? Dont see many 2k rated players anymore... i cant imagine why.

Statistics: Posted by Evildrew — 13 Dec 2016, 20:34

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-10T01:51:34+02:00

meh. we can just do it faf style and have it on by default, then put an option in the settings to change that default.

faf has a lot of fun features that most people dont know about, its a bit of a waste imo to not have the improvements on.

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 10 Dec 2016, 01:51

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-10T00:38:47+02:00

Hell no. Default auto overcharge would mean that if a single random t1 unit wandered near your com, you would lose 5k power for the encounter which might put you in power stall.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 10 Dec 2016, 00:38

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-08T15:26:54+02:00

PhilipJFry wrote:
A good solution would be to give people the option to auto-toggle the same way you can auto-oc.

I love this idea so long as the default is auto.
(as a matter of fact OC should be auto by default as well but I guess it's hard to code that or something)

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 08 Dec 2016, 15:26

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T21:20:32+02:00

I didn't even know Cybran Crusier had a second fire mode.

Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 07 Dec 2016, 21:20

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T20:35:32+02:00

A good solution would be to give people the option to auto-toggle the same way you can auto-oc.

Statistics: Posted by PhilipJFry — 07 Dec 2016, 20:35

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T18:30:37+02:00

Happens quite often because you are t1 scout spamming cybran navy all the time anyway due to stealth shenanigans.
I find it quite nice that we can do that now though.

Statistics: Posted by JoonasTo — 07 Dec 2016, 18:30

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T17:54:42+02:00

ZLO_RD wrote:
If cybran crusiers attack your shielded positions, you can remove alot of their dps by sending air scout spam at them

How offten it happend? And comparing it with previous situation where cruiser have reduced dps becasue was swaped to air, or when cruiser and navy die becase was swapen on direct fire?

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 07 Dec 2016, 17:54

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T17:30:40+02:00

If cybran crusiers attack your shielded positions, you can remove alot of their dps by sending air scout spam at them

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 07 Dec 2016, 17:30

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T02:48:28+02:00

But they still can't overcome pathfinding issues

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 07 Dec 2016, 02:48

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T02:42:56+02:00

We can't make life easier for Cybran.

Seriously though, Cybran have advance Ai. Auto toggle seems fitting. They're the cybernetic smart race remember?
"Oh no why are my units being smart? Repeal that."

Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 07 Dec 2016, 02:42

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T02:31:43+02:00

Do you have any reasoning behind that?
Not trying to bash the person who suggested it, just saying we shouldn't just do something because we can.

Statistics: Posted by biass — 07 Dec 2016, 02:31

Re: Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T02:08:18+02:00

why ?

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 07 Dec 2016, 02:08

Repeal Cybran Crusier and T1 mobile AA auto toggle

2016-12-07T00:55:45+02:00

In my opinion, the decision whether to fire the AA or the land based weapon should be a decision of the player, not set by default to the AI to decide.

If anyone has a solution to overwrite this in a mod, it would be appreciated, I have tried and failed myself but i would think best is to repeal it and set it back to how it was. Not trying to bash the person who implemented it, just saying we should just do something because we can.

Statistics: Posted by Evildrew — 07 Dec 2016, 00:55