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Re: Ladder is lame

2016-12-01T18:11:59+02:00

Mad`Mozart, the rating bug has not huge effect. if your winratio is around 50% the bug will average out.
(my data: over 100 ladder games the difference was around 10-20 points.)
and there are probably more bugs to find.

Statistics: Posted by Grothe — 01 Dec 2016, 18:11

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-12-01T00:59:37+02:00

Even if the bug was fixed, rating been fucked up for months and accumulated bad data. Unless its been recalculated but i havent heard anyone mentioning it.

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 01 Dec 2016, 00:59

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-12-01T00:26:38+02:00

what's the issue with leaderboard rating ? i thought last patch fixed the rating issue in teamgame but also in ladder game. Still not completely fix ?

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 01 Dec 2016, 00:26

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-12-01T00:11:43+02:00

Almost nailed it, except the people doing balance cannot code,

Statistics: Posted by biass — 01 Dec 2016, 00:11

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-12-01T00:06:32+02:00

Ladder can be anything you wish!

But the worst thing of all is it's unplayable due to connectivity issues.
Whine as much as you like about the subtleties you have in your mind(I have my own too), but you
can't ignore two basic problems:

People can't play it because they can't connect.
Leaderboards is broken. A healthy competition requires a working scores board with ratings
leagues and divisions.

So, instead of delving into unit stats and "balance" try instead to solve more basic problems.

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 01 Dec 2016, 00:06

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-26T00:28:10+02:00

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=13019

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 26 Nov 2016, 00:28

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T20:25:53+02:00

Exotic_Retard wrote:
i just find it amusing how a bot has a better implementation than current ladder system xD
another KEY advantage of said bot is you can play ladder with equilibrium that way

/me hides

if only bot could host a game for you to join to

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 25 Nov 2016, 20:25

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T18:42:37+02:00

i just find it amusing how a bot has a better implementation than current ladder system xD
another KEY advantage of said bot is you can play ladder with equilibrium that way

/me hides

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 25 Nov 2016, 18:42

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T18:26:56+02:00

I agree, ladder sucks massive balls now, and i gave up on it some time ago. But yeah, main reason it stays like that cause people who have coding skills give exactly no shits about it, and people who give some shits have no or not sufficient coding skills. Maybe something will actually change with new PC

Still was/is the primary way to play 1v1 and choosing a map every time you play custom game can be a pain. Thats where The Shaper comes into play. No more shit maps, no more repetition (unless you mind it), no more connection bugs. Totally superior to ladder except you fall out of 1v1 ranking, but hey with the (not so) recent rating bugs it not a problem too

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 25 Nov 2016, 18:26

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T14:37:23+02:00

Whatever else it was, it was fun.

If we can make it fun again and continue having tournaments we could get a balance that cater to both casual and competitive players.

There is also the achievement system in downlords client that will appeal to casual players. His client is getting closer everyday to being a viable replacement if it's not already.

Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 25 Nov 2016, 14:37

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T14:31:21+02:00

Well you just need
and

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 25 Nov 2016, 14:31

Re: Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T14:29:12+02:00

make ladder great again!
biggest issue that people don't play no matter what.

ZLO rolls luxcuse wheel:
TheSetoner: todays excuse is - ladder bug

i liked previous system, i think it is superior, just need to tweak it: make less maps to choose from, make less stupid new maps in ladder, pseudo random maps to elliminate repeat, and maybe to completely veto certan maps.

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 25 Nov 2016, 14:29

Ladder is lame

2016-11-25T14:18:09+02:00

Can we try the big pool again where we select maps? People still moan about maps they don't like and don't play. I don't really see any problems solved and the competitive guys stopped playing due to balance in any case.

Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 25 Nov 2016, 14:18