Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T19:35:26+02:00

Not to mention, Aulex, you and the others won't have anything to code for FAF the way it is going. If you are simply looking to code and get experience, you should probably move on. If you care about FAF and coding for it, you should probably play as well to help keep it alive.

I predict this time next year it will be half or quarter the size unless drastic improvements happen in popularity. I am putting up with crap team games for awhile now and it won't last much longer.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 23 Sep 2016, 19:35

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T19:21:11+02:00

Oh ok, i'll explain more then with my shitty english ... The 1k+ player playing teamgame or ladder is really really going down, anyone who play regulary since 6 month, i think can see that. And lot of ppl are getting tired to play with the 30 same person and tired of having very poor diversity in map (for exemple, im playing nearly exclusivly gap recently, because its most of the time the only 1k+ game hosted.

So my point was if we can get the ppl who are involved in faf and not playing anymore reconsider the fact of playing, we would gain back some positive dynamic. And maybe stop loosing more player.

Because as i see it now, faf wont hold long with such a slow activity (and maybe i am wrong, but once again that's my feeling of regular player for the past 3 or 4 year)

Did you get my point this time?

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 23 Sep 2016, 19:21

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T19:12:01+02:00

jackherer wrote:
Aulex wrote:
Morax wrote:Jack and I seem to share the same passion and are stressed that our beloved, favorite RTS will vanish with a lack of care to both play and code it. Make sense?

No, I don't understand. You're worried that if devs don't play their passion will disappear and they will quit?

No as i said, this post wasnt about the dev only,( i think you really take it too much personnal), but about that a big part of "faf leading team" (moderator, developer top player ... dont play anymore). And if they are willing to put some effort in that as well, it will really help faf (this is my feeling).

Now you take that in consideration, you dont IDK. But stop with this non sense argumentation, because it really wasnt the goal of this topic.

I'm not taking any of this personally, I'm trying to understand your point. I want the community to be more involved, it's nice that you are trying to get the behind the scenes people to play more, I just don't understand the justification behind it for "improving" faf or increasing the longevity.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 23 Sep 2016, 19:12

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T19:04:45+02:00

Aulex wrote:
Morax wrote:Jack and I seem to share the same passion and are stressed that our beloved, favorite RTS will vanish with a lack of care to both play and code it. Make sense?

No, I don't understand. You're worried that if devs don't play their passion will disappear and they will quit?

No as i said, this post wasnt about the dev only,( i think you really take it too much personnal), but about that a big part of "faf leading team" (moderator, developer top player ... dont play anymore). And if they are willing to put some effort in that as well, it will really help faf (this is my feeling).

Now you take that in consideration, you dont IDK. But stop with this non sense argumentation, because it really wasnt the goal of this topic.

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 23 Sep 2016, 19:04

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T18:40:16+02:00

Legion Darrath wrote:
Morax wrote:
Legion Darrath wrote:I don't get why somebody would be any better or worse of a mod/dev/td just because they play very often...

Because when someone who is upset about behavior in a game you can relate to it better rather use your imagination? It seems simple to me

I don't need to play this game specifically to understand that being griefed by a teamkiller, just to name something, is upsetting.

That's a grave, oversimplification of scenarios that can take place. Without actively playing the game and seeing egregious behavior trends beyond an obvious teamkill you are lacking true understanding. Only by playing the game can you relate to most of the ways people feel about it.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 23 Sep 2016, 18:40

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T18:39:14+02:00

Aulex wrote:
Morax wrote:Jack and I seem to share the same passion and are stressed that our beloved, favorite RTS will vanish with a lack of care to both play and code it. Make sense?

No, I don't understand. You're worried that if devs don't play their passion will disappear and they will quit?

Not devs, just in general. It doesn't matter what you "are" but what we fear is that "players" will be gone soon.

"lobby sim" would not have been coined if players were plentiful, right?

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 23 Sep 2016, 18:39

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T18:27:37+02:00

Zoram wrote:
jackherer wrote:Aulex as i already said twice, stop justfing yourself. Don't come play fa, keep fixing bug, it's already great that you spend time on that.
I just hope than when we will have fonctionnal lobby and ladder and server and..... we will still have player to use it

Stop being so passive aggressive

There isn't any agressivity in my message active or passive, or suggestive or whatever kind you think there is.
See my message (the first one) like a bottle in the sea, and aulex and other can do what they want with it. Consider it or not.

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 23 Sep 2016, 18:27

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T18:09:22+02:00

Morax wrote:
Jack and I seem to share the same passion and are stressed that our beloved, favorite RTS will vanish with a lack of care to both play and code it. Make sense?

No, I don't understand. You're worried that if devs don't play their passion will disappear and they will quit?

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 23 Sep 2016, 18:09

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T17:26:55+02:00

Zoram, there is a legitimate concern about players departing while things are being fixed. To not be a little worried as jackherer is is crazy. The devs are working on it, but they can only do so much.

Jack and I seem to share the same passion and are stressed that our beloved, favorite RTS will vanish with a lack of care to both play and code it. Make sense?

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 23 Sep 2016, 17:26

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T17:21:30+02:00

jackherer wrote:
Aulex as i already said twice, stop justfing yourself. Don't come play fa, keep fixing bug, it's already great that you spend time on that.
I just hope than when we will have fonctionnal lobby and ladder and server and..... we will still have player to use it

Stop being so passive aggressive

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 23 Sep 2016, 17:21

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-23T16:27:30+02:00

Aulex as i already said twice, stop justfing yourself. Don't come play fa, keep fixing bug, it's already great that you spend time on that.
I just hope than when we will have fonctionnal lobby and ladder and server and..... we will still have player to use it

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 23 Sep 2016, 16:27

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-22T19:10:06+02:00

jackherer wrote:
Aulex wrote:How does playing help faf?

Well if you are blind to that point, then i cant do anything for you, if you cant see how much faf is missing player and dont get that having faf main actors playing could break that negative spiral that is making more and more ppl quiting faf everyday.

People leave because of personal issues, politics or bugs. I can't really address personal issues, sitting in aeolus and arguing with people about how faf should be run doesn't come off as a positive activity to me, and bugs, well, I think you can guess there. If you're concerned about the player count, well, I don't think 1 more sub par player will really change anything.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 22 Sep 2016, 19:10

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-22T18:55:38+02:00

Morax wrote:
Legion Darrath wrote:I don't get why somebody would be any better or worse of a mod/dev/td just because they play very often...

Because when someone who is upset about behavior in a game you can relate to it better rather use your imagination? It seems simple to me

I don't need to play this game specifically to understand that being griefed by a teamkiller, just to name something, is upsetting.

Statistics: Posted by Legion Darrath — 22 Sep 2016, 18:55

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-22T15:22:13+02:00

Jack, I hear ya. It's like you can't play the game AND code, as if it's some mystical realm of impossibility that only exists in dreams.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 22 Sep 2016, 15:22

Re: Play more talk less

2016-09-22T12:51:39+02:00

WTF with you guys creating shit where there isnt.
1st of all i'm not talking about every dev, didnt mention downloard for exemple who is regulary playing, i didn't attack Legion mods skill. I didnt stay "hey stop everything else you are doing". It was just a friendly reminder of how much that community is missing of player, and a big part of the "most involved person" in faf wasnt playing anymore fa.
If you cant deal with that... And have to find excuses and justify your self. Your problem

Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 22 Sep 2016, 12:51