Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-25T18:24:03+02:00

yeah...

I agree with the above some graphical boosts could stimulate the community as a whole. seeing my graphical backround maybe this is what I should be thinking of doing instead.

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 25 Sep 2016, 18:24

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-25T14:44:09+02:00

"Remastering light" could easily be done if someone with graphic talents redo the particle textures for explosions and other game effects, some of them are at a very low resolution at the moment and most ppls GFX cards would be able to handle it.

Also remastering models / animations / textures of the more important units in the game like ACUs and Experimentals could be a good start.

If the "FAF Community" was able to fix these relative simple things a continued discussion on other parts like a total engine rewrite could be meaningful. If not, well...

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 25 Sep 2016, 14:44

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-25T13:34:41+02:00

Culverin wrote:
I thought the sourcecode stayed with the devs, and Nordic never got it.
Do we even have this info as concrete to work from?

I don't know a lick of programming,
But I would be very interested in learning if a FAF remake would be in the cards.

the IP currently belongs to Square Enix.

I didn't know that Nordic owned the source code but seeing from these threads http://forum.nordicgames.at/threads/178 ... -Commander http://forum.nordicgames.at/threads/240 ... ource-code

it seems they currently do. they must've bought it during the GPG / THQ bankruptcy auction during which Wargaming bought Total annihilation ip.

maybe for the source code asking nicely is all that's required. by now Nordic must've gotten everything they wanted out of it wand with it's old age it must be worthless to them?

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 25 Sep 2016, 13:34

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-23T22:53:46+02:00

SalvationKing0 wrote:
Have we actually considered outright purchasing the IP rights for SupCom and FA?

I like the petition idea.

I thought the sourcecode stayed with the devs, and Nordic never got it.
Do we even have this info as concrete to work from?

I don't know a lick of programming,
But I would be very interested in learning if a FAF remake would be in the cards.

Statistics: Posted by Culverin — 23 Sep 2016, 22:53

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-20T23:31:26+02:00

Have we actually considered outright purchasing the IP rights for SupCom and FA?

I like the petition idea.

Statistics: Posted by SalvationKing0 — 20 Sep 2016, 23:31

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-20T01:43:24+02:00

spring took many years to reach fruitition in terms of development. Supcom is in some ways even more complex, so it'd be one hell of a job to pull it off. Still, that shouldn't stop someone from trying. The IP issue is a whole other thing, which could be a major issue. Maybe it could be worth creating some sort of petition or so which might motivate nordic to make a multithreaded (+ other potential fixes) remaster of the game coz it shows it might get a lot of sales. I'd for sure be willing to throw my wallet with €30,- in it if you'd have to buy it again. If they do it then like gearbox did with some nice goodies along with it (artwork, posters, storybook, etc). They might be motivated by it, but I'm not sure. I'm not familiar enough with Nordic to know if they even would be open to a request like this.

Statistics: Posted by kristi — 20 Sep 2016, 01:43

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T18:32:50+02:00

Zoram wrote:
Even if. Who would do that ? There's no one already to fix lobby bugs. Re-doing the game from scratch ? :p
Maybe try to convince the Spring team :p

it would obviously require cash.

that's why I suggested a kickstarter.

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 14 Sep 2016, 18:32

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T17:56:35+02:00

rambouillet wrote:
biass wrote:c o p y r i g h t e d i p

Total Annihilation was re-written into the Spring RTS engine (TA: Spring), and I don't recall there ever being copyright issues

Even if. Who would do that ? There's no one already to fix lobby bugs. Re-doing the game from scratch ? :p
Maybe try to convince the Spring team :p

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 14 Sep 2016, 17:56

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T17:53:31+02:00

and now the Supcom IP belongs to a triple A gamedev company, and not a very good one either, i dont think we'll get away with it.

Statistics: Posted by biass — 14 Sep 2016, 17:53

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T17:52:02+02:00

biass wrote:
c o p y r i g h t e d i p

Total Annihilation was re-written into the Spring RTS engine (TA: Spring), and I don't recall there ever being copyright issues

Statistics: Posted by rambouillet — 14 Sep 2016, 17:52

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T16:47:13+02:00

c o p y r i g h t e d i p

Statistics: Posted by biass — 14 Sep 2016, 16:47

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-14T16:46:12+02:00

Why not just rebuild the game from scratch in a new, licensed engine?

We know exactly how we want the game to look, feel, and function. So, all the UI, texture, and models will already be created. We would only have to port them to the new engine.

Statistics: Posted by rambouillet — 14 Sep 2016, 16:46

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-13T21:15:39+02:00

If nothing else, I would be happy to get multi-threading/multi-core capability. My CPU isn't hella fast but it has eight freaking cores.

Statistics: Posted by LtSurge — 13 Sep 2016, 21:15

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-13T16:30:17+02:00

depends all on nordic games who have the IP now ... so far they did jack with it ... not even putting it on gog unlike TA which owned by wargaming ..

Statistics: Posted by MrTBSC — 13 Sep 2016, 16:30

Re: Can we remastered FA?

2016-09-13T11:17:36+02:00

Unfortunately we cant touch the engine of FA, we have have neither the sourcecode or even some kind of allowance to decompile and modify that ( not that it would be feasible ).
So while better performance engine-wise ( less lag, better pathfinding) is not going to happen, there are some areas that are modifyable:

The lua code of the game, we can do basicaly anything with it as long we stay within a certain framework defined by the engine. There is alot possible with this, think for example of all the sim and ui mods or how different the lobby ( when hosting) looks.
We can use reshade to sqeeze the last bit out from the graphics viewtopic.php?f=41&t=9969#p107978 . I have never tried it myself, but i'm curious how for example how rk's explosions would look ingame with some postprocessing applied to it.
We could also use different higher quality models for units, just like some sim mods use their custom models. But this would be a lot a work, so i'm not sure this will happen. Maybe if it is done one unit at a time.

Statistics: Posted by yorick — 13 Sep 2016, 11:17