Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-09T21:30:02+02:00

Sheeo wrote:
E8400-CV wrote:So instead of clan-teams leaving to prevent rating loss, we will get clans rushing mid to kill some enemy ACU. That used to be punished by the others of other team leaving. Great change! ..NOT

All in all people should stop caring so much about their rating. You don't get better by manipulating the rating number. It just means you will lose from players with same rating.

The game has an option called "No rush", you may want to play with this enabled if that's the sort of behavior you don't want.

The game had the option to just quit if there was such a douchebag, w/o rating affected.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 09 Jul 2016, 21:30

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-08T08:05:36+02:00

E8400-CV wrote:
So instead of clan-teams leaving to prevent rating loss, we will get clans rushing mid to kill some enemy ACU. That used to be punished by the others of other team leaving. Great change! ..NOT

All in all people should stop caring so much about their rating. You don't get better by manipulating the rating number. It just means you will lose from players with same rating.

The game has an option called "No rush", you may want to play with this enabled if that's the sort of behavior you don't want.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 08 Jul 2016, 08:05

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-07T14:31:05+02:00

E8400-CV wrote:
So instead of clan-teams leaving to prevent rating loss, we will get clans rushing mid to kill some enemy ACU. That used to be punished by the others of other team leaving. Great change! ..NOT

Are you suggesting that Teamwork is bad? And that teams leaving early because they couldn't handle an early assault, is a good thing?

Statistics: Posted by KeyBlue — 07 Jul 2016, 14:31

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-07T04:14:21+02:00

E8400-CV wrote:
So instead of clan-teams leaving to prevent rating loss, we will get clans rushing mid to kill some enemy ACU. That used to be punished by the others of other team leaving. Great change!

Fixed

Statistics: Posted by BushMaster — 07 Jul 2016, 04:14

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-07T04:02:13+02:00

So instead of clan-teams leaving to prevent rating loss, we will get clans rushing mid to kill some enemy ACU. That used to be punished by the others of other team leaving. Great change! ..NOT

All in all people should stop caring so much about their rating. You don't get better by manipulating the rating number. It just means you will lose from players with same rating.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 07 Jul 2016, 04:02

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-06T22:20:15+02:00

I tend to host lots of games with rating limit, but usually i allow exceptions. But if there is some fuckface who has left previous game in purpose as you described i will not allow him to play if there is players to choose from.

Statistics: Posted by seero — 06 Jul 2016, 22:20

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-07-06T12:29:33+02:00

seero wrote:
Whole team leaves the game before it gets ranked because someone in team/whole team got shit start.

Is it allowed or not? Or is it even possible nowadays?

I remember there was a topic/announcement about this earlier, that it was being fixed or something but cant find it because that shitty search is ignoring every required word.

I think most of us have done this at some point. For example if you like 1400+ Setons and you're a mere 1400 you dont want to drop down to 1300 and miss out playing with the decent people. Yet you might join a game to discover you have a total noob on your side in an important slot threatening your rank.

I'd say with players ranked at least 1200 the chance of getting someone who is bad is low. They might not be great but they have a good idea of what they should be doing. <1200 you get some that know how to go about playing but you spot that most have knowledge gaps. And <1000 those gaps start becoming bigger than the knowledge they actually have. Thats not good if you're playing against your favourite, well known, cut throat opponents.

Statistics: Posted by UtterlyBrainDead — 06 Jul 2016, 12:29

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T21:21:53+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
Sheeo wrote:Once this is merged and published https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/1323, games where ACU's were killed by other players will always be ranked.

this should be not only kiled by other player but where acu die. While then its easy abusable to autodesctuct own acu when have very low hp and know that die.

If someone forces rankedness by suiciding their ACU into e.g. enemy PD, that's their own fault. Their team probably isn't winning anyway, so what'd be the motivation? To tank rating?

You can tank rating by just waiting out the limit and then ctrl+k'ing anyway.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 30 Jun 2016, 21:21

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T18:27:55+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
Sheeo wrote:Once this is merged and published https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/1323, games where ACU's were killed by other players will always be ranked.

this should be not only kiled by other player but where acu die. While then its easy abusable to autodesctuct own acu when have very low hp and know that die.

From the POV of remaining players, the ACU of any player who quits will self destruct. Even when the result of a disconnect.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 30 Jun 2016, 18:27

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T17:03:38+02:00

Sheeo wrote:
Once this is merged and published https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/1323, games where ACU's were killed by other players will always be ranked.

this should be not only kiled by other player but where acu die. While then its easy abusable to autodesctuct own acu when have very low hp and know that die.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 30 Jun 2016, 17:03

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T16:48:15+02:00

Thanks sheeo, this was the thing i was looking for. So currently is allowed, though only suckers do it but still i see that happen in teamgames like once in couple of months. Still after the fix, 8mins is pretty long time in fast-paced maps where first actions count a lot. Whole team can quit game in 7 mins if all fronts have lost. I guess we just need a written rule that team leaving in purpose is not tolerated.

Statistics: Posted by seero — 30 Jun 2016, 16:48

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T15:30:18+02:00

Once this is merged and published https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/1323, games where ACU's were killed by other players will always be ranked.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 30 Jun 2016, 15:30

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T14:57:14+02:00

Well it is frowned upon sort of. I tend not to like playing with players who consistently leave games. I usually prefer to go with it and adapt. Unless it is an obvious and game loosing departure from the meta I will stay.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 30 Jun 2016, 14:57

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T14:43:43+02:00

You do if you tell them to. Or if they are all your clanmates. Since its not frowned upon, I plan to do this every chance I get.

Statistics: Posted by buletproof_bob — 30 Jun 2016, 14:43

Re: Leave game in purpose to avoid rank dropping

2016-06-30T08:06:41+02:00

Even if some players leave the game early, they will still get a rating change provided that the remaining players remain in the game longer than the requisite time limit and report a game result. The only way to avoid this is for everyone on the team to leave the game. Which results in a game result being reported before the minimum time is achieved and no change of rating.

Even if you leave the game. If one of your team members remains and continues to fight for longer than the requisite time and looses you will receive a negative rating once the game is finished.

MORAL TO THE STORY: Don't leave the game. You have no control over what your team mates will do after you're gone.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 30 Jun 2016, 08:06