Forged Alliance Forever

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-07-04T23:06:11+02:00

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:
at around 3:40 on the top island, how do you unload units instantly. For the last 10000 drops I ahve done, I always see transport move into position, then hover for a few seconds, then release units.
Some people, like the better setons players, release the units right as the transport gets into position, it is all in one motion, no hover, and if the transport has a subsequent move order, it gets out right away.

The transporter needs to align itself to the drop target if it isn't facing it (I'd say about 15% leeway either way).

So when you plot out your waypoints for it to fly along put an extra one it to line it up nice and straight before that final part of the trip. Then it doesn't pause mid flight to orientate itself.

Statistics: Posted by UtterlyBrainDead — 04 Jul 2016, 23:06

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-29T17:32:41+02:00

seero wrote:
This should be buffed that transport unload/load time would always be the shortest possible, because drops in mid/lategame are more rare than chicken with tooth. one reason for that is that huge delay on release, which mostly causes expensive drop tries to fail.

Security of your drop force is really important. If the margin for error during a drop is so small that a few seconds in delay is likely to cause you to fail, then, perhaps you need to properly risk assess. No one is going to avoid dropping simply because of an extra second or two in delay.

Yes, it is unfortunate that this delay can result in the loss of units. But if you find yourself in that situation than the decision to drop was likely not prudent to begin with.

As was said before, you can reduce the difficulty for the game engine by avoiding movement over terrain height differences, and dropping onto level ground with plenty of open space.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 29 Jun 2016, 17:32

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-29T13:55:39+02:00

seero wrote:
This should be buffed that transport unload/load time would always be the shortest possible, because drops in mid/lategame are more rare than chicken with tooth. one reason for that is that huge delay on release, which mostly causes expensive drop tries to fail.

Brick/Harbinger/percivals drops, sera arty drop erc... not really rare.

Statistics: Posted by NapSpan — 29 Jun 2016, 13:55

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-29T11:21:55+02:00

This should be buffed that transport unload/load time would always be the shortest possible, because drops in mid/lategame are more rare than chicken with tooth. one reason for that is that huge delay on release, which mostly causes expensive drop tries to fail.

Statistics: Posted by seero — 29 Jun 2016, 11:21

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-28T22:50:20+02:00

For some reason, while the turning raduis is quite small, the vertical change is SUPER slow on transports. If you go over any terrain, the transport has to slowly drift back down to drop the units. EG on setons, if you drop the island from straight across the water with a short move order after the drop, it will pretty much let the units out as soon as it gets there. If you come from the north or south and fly over the rock part, it takes 2x+ as long to drop the units.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 28 Jun 2016, 22:50

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T19:58:55+02:00

I recall last year that transports would move to the average position of all units being loaded and decrease the amount of time needed. Now, it sits there and waits for every unit to crawl to it...

You need to move the transport yourself and try to get the units as close as possible, TA. It's really frustrating and I don't know why it changed.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 27 Jun 2016, 19:58

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T19:45:49+02:00

It also depends on height/terrain, some times transport need time to change height before it can unload

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 27 Jun 2016, 19:45

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T17:04:55+02:00

As for the moving away straight off (as though a subsequent move order were issued), this is normally done with a Shift + move command. It is typical for most players to tell the transport to return home after the drop. Another pro tip which might save you time is giving the engineers a Shift + build order immediately after the load command, but, before they actually enter the transport. You can tell the engineers to build a PD, or a factory, or a couple of mexes... That way they are building the moment they hit the ground.

Sometimes there is a delay in dropping. I've never quite figured it out. Pretty random I think.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 27 Jun 2016, 17:04

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T16:22:22+02:00

Mot wrote:
Wasn't there some mumbling about "gotta give the transport a long move order to get the drop fast" or such?

Yes think it's faster if you set a second short move order before the drop command.

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 27 Jun 2016, 16:22

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T15:26:07+02:00

Wasn't there some mumbling about "gotta give the transport a long move order to get the drop fast" or such?

Statistics: Posted by Mot — 27 Jun 2016, 15:26

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-27T00:21:06+02:00

Blind luck afaik. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes slow.

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 27 Jun 2016, 00:21

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-26T23:45:59+02:00

Blackheart wrote:
Can only be done if the player has no UI lag

Is that an if and only if?

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 26 Jun 2016, 23:45

Re: after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do thi

2016-06-26T22:06:29+02:00

Can only be done if the player has no UI lag

Statistics: Posted by Blackheart — 26 Jun 2016, 22:06

after 8 years, can someone finally tell me how to do this

2016-06-26T22:00:53+02:00

at around 3:40 on the top island, how do you unload units instantly. For the last 10000 drops I ahve done, I always see transport move into position, then hover for a few seconds, then release units.
Some people, like the better setons players, release the units right as the transport gets into position, it is all in one motion, no hover, and if the transport has a subsequent move order, it gets out right away.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 26 Jun 2016, 22:00