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Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2018-08-09T05:36:00+02:00

RocketRooster wrote:
Stumbled across this very nice article while doing some troubleshooting research for my server at work.

http://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812

I just got a chance to go back over this post - Rocket, that's a nice idea but the game runs exclusively on UDP traffic. This appears as if it will not have an effect.

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 09 Aug 2018, 05:36

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-07-22T10:27:46+02:00

Stumbled across this very nice article while doing some troubleshooting research for my server at work.

http://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812

Statistics: Posted by RocketRooster — 22 Jul 2016, 10:27

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-25T07:22:13+02:00

done

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 25 Apr 2016, 07:22

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-21T23:15:53+02:00

adjust step 6
6. Select the QoS key and create a new DWORD inside it called:
"Do not use NLA"
This is not a dword but a string value, also make sure you give it value 1.

This is important because without this registry entry the tcp packets are not assigned a dscp value, only the udp packets are.
This makes FAF very quick when going between tabs and searching vault etc.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 21 Apr 2016, 23:15

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-19T21:00:57+02:00

Softly wrote:
snuffles wrote:on another note, if this Windows QoS setting change could be implemented as a part of the FAForever.msi/FAF.msi installation script, that would be a better idea

Changing user's network configurations in a FAF installer sounds like a terrible idea

This would be changing the dscp value in the header of the udp packets sent out by FAF.

It would be up to the user to change any settings on the router, unless this can be done with upnp settings(when that checkmark is marked).(but this is way over my head)

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 19 Apr 2016, 21:00

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-19T20:52:55+02:00

snuffles wrote:
on another note, if this Windows QoS setting change could be implemented as a part of the FAForever.msi/FAF.msi installation script, that would be a better idea

Changing user's network configurations in a FAF installer sounds like a terrible idea

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 19 Apr 2016, 20:52

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T12:35:25+02:00

snuffles wrote:
on another note, if this Windows QoS setting change could be implemented as a part of the FAForever.msi/FAF.msi installation script, that would be a better idea

Yes that would be great

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 16 Apr 2016, 12:35

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T11:53:24+02:00

on another note, if this Windows QoS setting change could be implemented as a part of the FAForever.msi/FAF.msi installation script, that would be a better idea

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 16 Apr 2016, 11:53

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-25T09:13:30+02:00

Original by SeraphimLeftNut

THIS SOLUTION WILL ONLY ALLEVIATE LOCAL CONGESTION EFFECTS ON YOUR FAFOREVER TRAFFIC

This does not apply to non-pro versions of Windows.
You must be running an Admin account or have Administrative Rights/Permissions to complete this guide.

Part 1: Windows Settings

Local Group Policy Changes
1. Go to RUN and type gpedit.msc, then hit OK

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2. Find and start the Policy Based QOS Wizard

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3. Progress through the Wizard and specify a DSCP value, eg 48 (CS6 on a router - more later).

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4. Complete the Wizard, and then right click the Policy Based QoS Wizard and select Advanced Settings

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5. Go to the DSCP Marking Override tab and tick "Control DSCP Marking..." Click OK, and then close the Local Group Policy Editor

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6. Go to RUN and type the following (not case sensitive), then hit OK:
GPUPDATE /TARGET:Computer /FORCE

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7. A CMD window will appear for a breif moment to update the Computer-specific Group Policy. Let it do its' work, and it will close automatically.

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Registry Changes
1. Go RUN and type REGEDIT then hit OK

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2. Registry Editor will appear. Browse through the tree to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\Parameters

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3. In the Parameters Folder (Key) right click in the pane on the right to add a new DWORD (32-bit value)
By default "New Value #1" will appear, and it will be set to zero.

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4. Type in the following, and then hit Enter
"DisableUserTOSSetting"

5. Browse through the tree to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Tcpip\QoS

Note: If you can't find this QoS Key, Right Click the "TCPIP" Key and mouse to New -> Key
Label this new Key "QoS"

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6. Select the QoS key and create a new String inside it called:
"Do not use NLA"
This is a string value, also make sure you give it value 1.

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7. After creating the new DWORD, hit enter again to modify it

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8. Change its' value to 1 and then hit Enter to save the change.

Close REGEDIT and any other windows we have opened, to return to your desktop.

Network Changes
Now, in the System Tray where your clock is:

1. Right Click on your Networking icon (WiFi or Ethernet) and click Network and Sharing Center.

2. Click the Connection (blue text) that has "Access Type: Internet"

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3. In the window that pops up, click Properties
4. Ensure that the QoS item(s) are ticked, then click OK etc to return to your desktop.

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Part 2: Router QoS Configuration
This is where there are too many variations to be precise.

1. Log onto your router and go to the QoS settings
2. Create a custom QoS policy, make it for upstream and specify CS6 (if you wrote 48 for the DSCP value)
An example from a Billion router. Ensure you specify your computer's IP address etc. Best results are experienced if your computer's IP is static

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All this may or may not work depending on what you have done to your system in the past and what is living in your registry.

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 16 Apr 2016, 09:46

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T09:25:25+02:00

Bufferbloat happens when your ISP sets up its routers to cache packets instead of forwarding them immediately. In other words, it's like a post office receiving letters and dumping them in a bag for each destination address and then only giving the bag to the postman for delivery once the bag is full, or when a certain time limit is reached.

The reason they do it is twofold:

1) link saturation. Their infrastructure might be under heavy load and combining packets reduces the routing overhead.
2) money. Pursuant to the above, ISPs usually lease bandwidth from a major upstream carrier, for which they have to pay. They might configure their switching equipment simply to reduce costs even if they have no performance constraints. It's just a handful of bytes here and there, but it adds up quickly and the consumer is always at the mercy of a provider's bottom line.

ETA - there is nothing you can do to make your ISP give FAF packets higher priority, the solutions offered by TA4Life are a means of ensuring that your computer fills up the isp buffer with faf packets in preference to other traffic from your PC. Since QoS is time-based, the isp router MUST forward packets within a certain timeframe regardless of how much is in the buffer, so the idea is to make sure that you cram as much FAF traffic into the buffer to maximise the value of the particular time-until-route for each buffer.

Statistics: Posted by RocketRooster — 16 Apr 2016, 09:25

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T08:45:36+02:00

snuffles wrote:
I don't know of a single person (other than myself) who I play with that is IT literate and will understand and do what you've written - you don't write instructions too well for the average joe... Shall I rewrite it for you?

Yes please

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 16 Apr 2016, 08:45

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T08:13:53+02:00

I don't know of a single person (other than myself) who I play with that is IT literate and will understand and do what you've written - you don't write instructions too well for the average joe... Shall I rewrite it for you?

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 16 Apr 2016, 08:13

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T06:40:19+02:00

one scenario where it might do stuff is if you had lots of traffic on your own home network, the qos might convince your router to send FAF traffic instead of something else.

In my house we have 2 ipads 2 phones and about 5 computers... they are always downloading updates, netflix, syncing photos etc. The other day I had to get some 4gb dropbox file at work ... it didn't occur to me that it would also sync it to two of my home computers at the same time.

anyway point being maybe if your network is flooded it could help. Or maybe not, I don't really understand these things. But sometimes when I'm getting lag I just turn off the whole house except for my pc.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 16 Apr 2016, 06:40

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-16T05:06:37+02:00

Playing with and without these makes a pretty big difference for me. I would love to know if this works for others.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 16 Apr 2016, 05:06

Re: stop ui lag: QOS settings

2016-04-14T23:52:14+02:00

my understanding is you turn that stuff on (like i did) and then your isp ignores it and just does business as usual

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 14 Apr 2016, 23:52