Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T17:59:48+02:00

hi guys,

Sorry don't wanted to be rude at all only addicted to 3599 FA ... I am sure you can understand it
thx for the info -_V_- i will try to contact him. I am willing to be a part of this mod !

Statistics: Posted by dstojkov — 15 May 2012, 17:59

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T16:45:39+02:00

Well Uber and I spent literally hours to test the restos because he wanted to prove it was not OP.

He's a nice guy, just a bit stubborn

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 15 May 2012, 16:45

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T16:36:54+02:00

dont try talkign with dstojkov , we have already lost days and days tryinh to explain him, but he just refuse to understand and keep going with the same shittalk.

Statistics: Posted by Isen — 15 May 2012, 16:36

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T14:47:29+02:00

dstojkov wrote:
hi guys

-_V_- ......
how can you ask me what change with the experimental ?
did you not see how big the change are?
Monky really too expansansive for what he does
GC the same, etc .....

Dude do you REALLY think people stop playing setons because the spider got more expensive ?

Already in the patch 3599 the mass, build time , energy, etc .. to build a exp was greater than to build t3 bot to destroy it Now in 36.. it is pointless to think about it.

I rarely try to kill t4 with t3 bots but I think you're wrong about that. From what I overheard buildtime wise, t3 bots are in disadvantage compared to t4. Once again , I never checked myself.

Finishing the game with strategique bomber or snipe is not anymore possible. No more reason to go t3 air at all or maybe to build some t3 scout ....
it's a boring t3 bots war that last forever because the limtation of strategy to use

Well you know me, I love air. So let me just say this is EPIC EPIC BS
Of course t3 air is still there and matters, of course strats are still efficient and are used to snipe.
Once again you're contributing to perpetuate the wrong belief that 3599 supporters don't appreciate so much 36xx because of t3 air rebalance. No offence but just like for stating the 3599 resto wasn't OP, please stop that crap, I beg you.

If you post a new thread this is at least to ear what the other want to say. if i give you some arguments you answer me it's a bullshit .... let me resume the thing : You will not have created this thread if all would have been fine.

I did NOT create that thread even if I agree that good quality setons is dying.
I may have been harsh in my previous posts in this thread - although I don't remember why and I'm too lazy to check - but when I see comments like the ones you just put above, it can only call for one answer " BS".

In 3599 people like to play setron ... the noob wanted to join game even though they were bashed. now in the serie 36.. no one want to try it ....

Did I say BS already ?
The only major problem we suffer from on seton's is the great navy imbalance induced by the t3 navy over-buffing. THAT killed the gameplay to some extent and the diversity of faction played. t3 air was nerfed, so ?
I never agreed that t3 air was OP in 3599, but no big deal in 3614.

You can still big air fights, 200vs200 is not uncommon. Ok no more 300v300 500v500 battles. I would like to say , great stuff. Less lag and less losses for me personally .
Seriously we adapted to the t3 air balance, that is really really not the issue.
FYI dso, the great players that left weren't "air players" anyway so your logic is wrong. It's not attitude either cause the bad attitude was already there on GPGnet.
Something else happened.

if your change gives no possibilty to noob to hope to win against a med-pro game with some snipe or joining eco to make a t4 rush why in the world should they join ????

I don't understand why you would say that

FAF is actually only good for 1vs 1 the team game is not even near of the team play of 3599.

Well you've seen ths posts on other threads. They balance the game for 1v1. Some stuff are completely crazy but well overall it's not as bad as you say. It's not like I'm a 3614 supporter and a 3599 hater , remember ?

Instead of searching reasons that you actually don't want to see. help me rather to make this fu 3599 mod !

I think Veta is trying to do something like this.Check with him. I would be glad to play a game with better navy balance where cybran is just not a fuckin' waste, oh yeah!

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 15 May 2012, 14:47

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T14:29:47+02:00

Funny I was just watching this game.

Apart from the comment of QAI (no idea why he insulted that guy), the chat seems fine.
EDIT : Bah Uber was faster than me

As I had explained before in another thread, the beginner (who was still allowed to play with experienced players in **RANDOM SPAWN** game) didn't listen to ANY advice the experienced players from his team gave. Completely ignoring them and playing completely selfishly. It's quite different from the situation where the beginner listens to advices and tries his best..

Let's be honest, the same kind of frustration happens, nothing specific to setons, and when one just doesn't care or listen, it just spoils the game for everyone, especially at this position.

BTW it's funny to see Disturbed complaining about his back doing BS. When it was me complaining about Disturbed's incompetence @back because he had ruined the game for the team, it was apparently "out of line". Funny shit. Double standards ?

That being said, I think TA's initial post was referring to great players who left, hardly to some random beginner.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 15 May 2012, 14:29

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T13:52:02+02:00

The comment in the second picture was uncalled for, but I fail to see anything offensive in any of the other posts.

Statistics: Posted by uberge3k — 15 May 2012, 13:52

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-15T12:05:13+02:00

hi guys

-_V_- ......
how can you ask me what change with the experimental ?
did you not see how big the change are?
Monky really too expansansive for what he does
GC the same, etc .....

Already in the patch 3599 the mass, build time , energy, etc .. to build a exp was greater than to build t3 bot to destroy it Now in 36.. it is pointless to think about it.
Finishing the game with strategique bomber or snipe is not anymore possible. No more reason to go t3 air at all or maybe to build some t3 scout ....
it's a boring t3 bots war that last forever because the limtation of strategy to use

If you post a new thread this is at least to ear what the other want to say. if i give you some arguments you answer me it's a bullshit .... let me resume the thing : You will not have created this thread if all would have been fine.

In 3599 people like to play setron ... the noob wanted to join game even though they were bashed. now in the serie 36.. no one want to try it ....

this is sorry a fact. It is good to have some new idea for balance but if you impose it to the people they can also choose to not accept it ....

if your change gives no possibilty to noob to hope to win against a med-pro game with some snipe or joining eco to make a t4 rush why in the world should they join ???? FAF is actually only good for 1vs 1 the team game is not even near of the team play of 3599.

Instead of searching reasons that you actually don't want to see. help me rather to make this fu 3599 mod !

Statistics: Posted by dstojkov — 15 May 2012, 12:05

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-14T08:22:18+02:00

Bah, we loved it. Shame.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 14 May 2012, 08:22

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-14T00:42:57+02:00

-_V_- wrote:
I was wondering why tnuksmasher's post had disappeared

I deleted it myself, I'll prove my point ingame.

Statistics: Posted by TnukSmasher3000 — 14 May 2012, 00:42

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-13T13:22:29+02:00

It's not over.
Not even started.
We can not make a bad judgment, a player for a bad game.
We can not praise a player for a good game, but by several.
The tactics are constantly changing, which today results in the next game the same tactic against the same player no longer result.
Zock and Lu_Xun_17 are only two players who continue to play seton with our community, summer games extremely difficult, that will give them will certainly see repaly to see where we all missed.
We raise our bar too high forgetting the roots of honest pride and respect for some players.
We forget ourselves to accept new elements completely disregarding some values, and end-of quickly with no hope for them to begin to learn from us the good and average.
We all spent there, we've all had games that were completely wiped out ..
But that's how we begin to see the training and tactics do good, trying to improve game after game, see what result best.
For some years we were up the ranks because there is our insistence on the game.
But even within our community have no respect for her, since we know that we / - 2007 to 2012 ..
We continue to disrespect players when they lose a front ... when they can not keep up with the opponent's asf, when the ships do not come to haunt the opponent.

Statistics: Posted by TheArmMaXimuS — 13 May 2012, 13:22

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-13T07:57:17+02:00

I was wondering why tnuksmasher's post had disappeared

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 13 May 2012, 07:57

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-13T01:00:05+02:00

Given that all the credibility has been lost by the setons players talking on here, it makes no sense no censor them.

Statistics: Posted by TA4Life — 13 May 2012, 01:00

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-11T22:55:10+02:00

3599 has severe OPness in air. I don't see the difference between that being annoying and naval being annoying.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 11 May 2012, 22:55

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-11T20:32:12+02:00

You know, drug is bad for you

Most of the good players who left weren't "Air players". They just got bored or annoyed by the platform or the balance, and some just play more 1v1.
Nothing to do with air. Don't contribute to spreading that bs .

The only major complain is the OP t3 navy making the naval game a lot more annoying with only uef/sera being played.

Plus, what's the problem with the t4 ? Nothing has changed there I think.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 11 May 2012, 20:32

Re: Setons dying

2012-05-11T17:56:22+02:00

I don't think also that is because of the issues. It's simply because the air is not anymore so important and also that you can not spam exprimental like before making the game not so funny like is was.
I am pretty sur that with the bug fixed a lot of people will adopt it.

Statistics: Posted by dstojkov — 11 May 2012, 17:56