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Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-23T02:11:53+02:00

theeggroll wrote:
Lol typical faf displayed by this thread, lots of talk of good ideas then nothing happens. 10/10

Nobodys stopping you from being the change you want to see

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 23 Apr 2016, 02:11

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-23T02:04:57+02:00

Lol typical faf displayed by this thread, lots of talk of good ideas then nothing happens. 10/10

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 23 Apr 2016, 02:04

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-22T17:56:02+02:00

I am agreeing with you, Aulex, not making fun of your statement.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 22 Apr 2016, 17:56

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-22T17:11:20+02:00

Violence wrote:
Until visionik himself says something

Aulex wrote:
When visionik has time

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 22 Apr 2016, 17:11

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-22T15:36:36+02:00

Until visionik himself says something I am just calling bs on everything going forward.

No offense to the admins and staff who are relaying messages, but you guys have been misinformed or canceled on so many times it's just not worth it anymore.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 22 Apr 2016, 15:36

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-22T00:20:26+02:00

Mad`Mozart wrote:
But when

Like, i feel that enough time has passed already

When visionik has time

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 22 Apr 2016, 00:20

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-21T23:28:16+02:00

But when

Like, i feel that enough time has passed already

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 21 Apr 2016, 23:28

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-21T23:09:51+02:00

Mad`Mozart wrote:
So what happened to the PC voting? Is it happening? Or is it a closed council only voting?

It will happen

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 21 Apr 2016, 23:09

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-21T21:37:58+02:00

So what happened to the PC voting? Is it happening? Or is it a closed council only voting?

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 21 Apr 2016, 21:37

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-03T19:48:28+02:00

Small pool + something like that would be lovely.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 03 Apr 2016, 19:48

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-03T19:39:39+02:00

Mad`Mozart wrote:
briang wrote:Writing something to reduce or eliminate the chance of playing on the same map twice in a row is simple is it not?

What if i told you, that Sheeo wrote an algorythm exactly like that a year ago? Around the time ZeP was banished together with his ladder.
Not sure what were the excuses but he never implemented it.

TA became PC and the idea was scrubbed.

Nothing prevents us from doing this with the randomized static pool, though.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 03 Apr 2016, 19:39

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-03T18:59:28+02:00

Games repetition needs addressing,and while I don't think making it impossible to get a map twice in a row is sensible it should be made dramatically less likely for you to get it 3/5 games, or something like that.

Aside from that the focus should be on developing players; lets give people the confidence to try ladder, and reward them for sticking with it. For example we could do themed ladder pools with changes preceded by some kind of community map focus event. This would give people a chance to learn the incoming maps in a safe environment (read unranked) before refining those same skills in ladder for the next 2 weeks/month.

We want to avoid giving new players 20 different maps in their first 30 games, or blocking them from developing understanding of the map pool. By improving player retention we are much more likely to get a good pull through of better players (which everyone wants, right?).

Longer term we can work on systems whereby players can opt into larger map pools, but we need to be realistic about the amount of time it will take for things like that to get developed.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 03 Apr 2016, 18:59

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-04-03T14:37:26+02:00

Softly wrote:
There's clearly something to be said for reducing the amount of repetition in ladder (I myself have had 5 in the last 10 ladder games on crossfire canal), but that doesn't mean we have to move away from a small pool. There's been some good points in the thread already as to why this might not be a good idea, and I'm not sure I have much more to add to them.

The focus should be on bringing more ladder players in, as this improves game quality and reduces waiting times. I personally don't think the map pool is the real issue, and I believe there's lots of easier things we can change to improve ladder popularity.

Anything in particular you'd like to change to improve popularity?

Statistics: Posted by Sir Prize — 03 Apr 2016, 14:37

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-03-30T20:35:38+02:00

Jumping in without reading hardly anything, I reallllyyyy miss the big map pool, I just wish that the map selected when playing ladder was truly random. Lots and lots of variety was way more fun then what we have here, and means ladder whores have to work harder to memorize every map and their builds for the first ten minutes of the game. The big map pool was done away with (I think) because there was bad programming behind it, and most people got only 5x5's or the same map over and over again. All the variety on the old one made it so much more fun, AND meant that you don't get these stupid overplayed maps 24/7. Most of my ladder games end up on Loki or Roanoke and those maps take a lot of effort and I do not enjoy them at all.

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 30 Mar 2016, 20:35

Re: Views on Ladder from possible Player Councillors

2016-03-30T18:23:29+02:00

briang wrote:
Writing something to reduce or eliminate the chance of playing on the same map twice in a row is simple is it not?

What if i told you, that Sheeo wrote an algorythm exactly like that a year ago? Around the time ZeP was banished together with his ladder.
Not sure what were the excuses but he never implemented it.

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 30 Mar 2016, 18:23