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Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T23:28:36+02:00

I did not know that.
That's actually reasonably easy "Citation Needed" then!

Mearly needs approval.

Statistics: Posted by Kalvirox — 04 Mar 2016, 23:28

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T18:58:05+02:00

C and Lua? lobby/server are written in python

Statistics: Posted by Myxir — 04 Mar 2016, 18:58

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T18:52:46+02:00

Morax, we can have a proper discussion about what I would "like" to have (I would of course do a poll of whether or not the ladder system needs changing before starting any work on it). I should be able to somewhat persuade you to my system design.

As for coding it myself, yes. I have an algorithm, I could probably make it in C with a bit of help.
I would a bit more help to do it in LUA.. I know That once you have learned 1 language its relatively easy to learn another one, but I barely know C at all... Just bits and pieces.The most important part is that I would code it myself.

Statistics: Posted by Kalvirox — 04 Mar 2016, 18:52

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T17:02:36+02:00

Blodir wrote:
@Morax: How would mapping councilor help at all in getting new maps?

Is it wrong to believe that the mapping councilor would create passion and direction in making maps for 1v1, team games, and fun?

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 04 Mar 2016, 17:02

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T16:52:09+02:00

@Morax: How would mapping councilor help at all in getting new maps?

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 04 Mar 2016, 16:52

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T16:36:03+02:00

I just ended up on "The Pyramid" versus TA4Life last night and the kind fellow he is he offered a draw and merriness was had. If anyone plans on adding maps like that to the 1v1 pool I will decline support. People need to stop throwing in "curve ball" team maps and garbage like Serenity Desert. I know we're hurting for content, but that's why I pushed for a "mapping councilor" to be nominated per my posts in the "Council of Seton's" thread.

Anyways, Kal, I do recall you said you'd learn some coding to make the ladder better, which I applaud. I'm not sure you realize the scope of what it takes to code it but hope you are willing to live up to that. I think you are because I know you are as passionate about this game as I am.

Please forgive me as I'm just really frustrated with a lot of things going on here lately. I'm so close to leaving it's not even funny.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 04 Mar 2016, 16:36

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-04T10:36:49+02:00

Morax. I have designed an alternative solution for ladder. A new system based on the current one with same hard stops on types of maps. Maximum would be 2 or 3 5x5 maps out of 12 or 15.. That's reasonable.

Edit: also there would be no core maps.

Statistics: Posted by Kalvirox — 04 Mar 2016, 10:36

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T23:58:03+02:00

Morax wrote:
Make a competitive and casual ladder per Mozart's well-thought solution.

Well, its not THAT well-thought and has some flaws. If there is a casual ladder with unrated games, its easy to make a smurf and stomp newbies and baddies for all eternity. Not sure how to adress that but since even Zock and TA were unable to push any major changes to ladder with council powers, it doesnt matter anyway.

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 03 Mar 2016, 23:58

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T23:41:51+02:00

Do not, please stop... I was going to vote you player councilor, Kalvirox, but catering to the masses will ruin the game. We don't want FAF ladder to become a 5x5 children's park.

Make a competitive and casual ladder per Mozart's well-thought solution.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 03 Mar 2016, 23:41

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T23:38:07+02:00

Yeah thats a good thread, i approve

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 03 Mar 2016, 23:38

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T23:36:10+02:00

I guess you missed this thread Kalv, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11349

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 03 Mar 2016, 23:36

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T23:19:02+02:00

So, i'm going to chuck this out there.
I think the ladder pool needs a complete redesign of the way it works. I really don't like the lack of diversity of the types of maps since every week there is always 6-7 overplayed maps and many good and interesting maps that are never picked.
Not to mention I feel it should tailor towards the lower end of players and include 1 or 2 more 5x5 maps. Since they like smaller maps and they make up the majority of the community, although only 1 or 2 maps should be added so that the oligarchy of FAF don't complain.

I'm probably alone in this. But I find ladder boring now, and surprisingly only half due to the lack of activity of the higher players. I think the system needs a rework.

Statistics: Posted by Kalvirox — 03 Mar 2016, 23:19

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T22:16:49+02:00

you can also find it in the wiki (if it isn't up to date feel free to update it)
http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?tit ... r_Map_Pool

Statistics: Posted by Turinturambar — 03 Mar 2016, 22:16

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T20:13:33+02:00

Mad`Mozart wrote:
This is why we will never have nice things in FAF btw

Sorry, it's a joke. I appreciate all the map makers who made these maps. And I appreciate Jagged posting the maps here, it's been a very common question ever since "select maps" was removed

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 03 Mar 2016, 20:13

Re: Current 1v1 Ladder Map Pool

2016-03-03T20:11:22+02:00

Blodir wrote:
JaggedAppliance wrote:Vya-3 Protectorate
Twin Rivers
The Bermuda Locket
Open Palms
Regor VI Highlands
Theta Passage
Loki
Syrtis Major
Niflheim Final
Crossfire Canal
rumble in the cancer
cancerlands
the cancer
desert cancer
cancer itself

Fixed it for you

This is why we will never have nice things in FAF btw

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 03 Mar 2016, 20:11