Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-31T23:07:40+02:00

speed2 wrote:
If you are in properties you can sort threads by CPU usage, ren and sim will always be in top 4. Another thing is, you can set ren thread as soon as you join lobby. With sim you have to wait till game starts, but if you have them sorted by CPU usage it will be at the top.

Process Hacker remembers the settings, so it will be always sorted by CPU usage. At least I have it like that ^^
Another thing would be that I dont know if I clicked on something, but I always have ren sim and one other thread highlighted by yellow color, so super easy to hit the right one

could run me through the whole process of what you do please?

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 31 Dec 2015, 23:07

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-31T13:50:16+02:00

Morax wrote:
Is there a way to save settings so that it loads up each time you play? I tried this a few times today and found it AWFULLY difficult to select the proper thread without asking people if I could pause...

If you are in properties you can sort threads by CPU usage, ren and sim will always be in top 4. Another thing is, you can set ren thread as soon as you join lobby. With sim you have to wait till game starts, but if you have them sorted by CPU usage it will be at the top.

Process Hacker remembers the settings, so it will be always sorted by CPU usage. At least I have it like that ^^
Another thing would be that I dont know if I clicked on something, but I always have ren sim and one other thread highlighted by yellow color, so super easy to hit the right one

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 31 Dec 2015, 13:50

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-31T06:50:06+02:00

Is there a way to save settings so that it loads up each time you play? I tried this a few times today and found it AWFULLY difficult to select the proper thread without asking people if I could pause...

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 31 Dec 2015, 06:50

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-31T03:48:52+02:00

Hard to get any data from a real late setons, but dim gave me a chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8vbLLTxo4
Core0 has a bunch of interrupts, mainly caused by invidia drivers and there is no much that can be done. (Note this didn't use to be the case a couple years ago, so some of these issues could be new)
The in game window ren_showbandwidthusage shows moments when a lot of commands are sent out (light orange), this appears to cause stutter in some cases. Giving orders to multiple factories, or giving spread attack moves, appear to be the biggest culprits in making the orange curve spike.
Summary:
Assigning both ren and sim to core0 gave the worst fps drops.
Assigning sim to core0 and ren to core1 and core2, gave good results but there were still some fps drops.
Assigning sim to core 3 and ren to core1 and core2, gave best results in the video.
You can also see that besides ren and sim threads there is another thread, which has relatively high cpu usage. By default it is assigned to core3 and has high priority. It especially seems to fluctuate and have high values (a few percent) during many player many unit games. On setons it actually dominates over the sim thread at the very start.
Conclusion:
Perhaps the best thread assignment is. Leave core0 completely unoccupied. Assign ren, sim to core1 and core2. Leave core3 for the other mystery thread.

Please do tests on your systems, figure out what works.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 31 Dec 2015, 03:48

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-18T22:10:29+02:00

Desktop:
AMD Athlon II X4 640, Redeon HD 6800, Win7
This PC is doomed, no chance improving whatsoever

Sad to read. I have same processor :/. I will try on monday anyway

Statistics: Posted by Java — 18 Dec 2015, 22:10

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-16T19:57:41+02:00

Ok time to do some reporting:
Desktop:

AMD Athlon II X4 640, Redeon HD 6800, Win7
This PC is doomed, no chance improving whatsoever

Laptop:

Intel i5 3317u, GeForce 635M, Win10
15-20 FPS increase

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 16 Dec 2015, 19:57

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-07T02:13:39+02:00

ThinkTank wrote:
Doesn't core maximize solve this?

Not at all

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 07 Dec 2015, 02:13

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-06T19:26:41+02:00

speed2 wrote:
ThinkTank wrote:Doesn't core maximize solve this?

thats tool is for win xp

and incompatible with anything above and FAF in general

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 06 Dec 2015, 19:26

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-05T12:53:11+02:00

ThinkTank wrote:
Doesn't core maximize solve this?

thats tool is for win xp

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 05 Dec 2015, 12:53

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-05T05:13:56+02:00

Doesn't core maximize solve this?

Statistics: Posted by ThinkTank — 05 Dec 2015, 05:13

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-02T00:45:39+02:00

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:
Yes. It would be nice if people would post whether or not this makes any difference for them and their system specs. Crotalus could you be more specific about exactly which software you want us to use to test exactly what things, and exactly what buttons to push in the above software.

I have 4790k with hyperthreading off on win 8.1.

Get Windows 10 you noob

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 02 Dec 2015, 00:45

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-02T00:03:43+02:00

I haven't had a chance to test in super late game yet , however, in replays at +10 I have much more consistent fps and seem to have less lag zooming in and out all settings high excpet shadows on low and aa off.
My pc:
I5 4690k @ 4.5 ghz
Msi gtx 970 4gb
16gb ddr3 ram @ 1600mhz
Asus z-97a mobo
Multiple ssd and harddrive but faf and fa are on crucial m4 120gb

Should move it my new samsung 850 250gb?

Windows 10

Statistics: Posted by Eoinbastian — 02 Dec 2015, 00:03

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-12-01T17:24:07+02:00

I've used this trick recently, and something very similar that I've posted in other threads for years.
My PC:
3770k @ 4.6ghz, 4cores/8threads
8gbram dualchannel @ 2400mhz
Zotac GTX 670 AMP! Edition
Samsung 840 Series SSD
Asus pz77-v pro

I mostly notice its impacts late game, or in crazy heavy moments in any game really. Best impact is on Phantoms, FFAs, and Epic long massive teamgames.
TAs trick really is 1 up on what I did in regards to UI fluidity late game, or in crazy hectic moments, but not sure if it gives the same sim % gain; regardless both are epic performance tweaks.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 01 Dec 2015, 17:24

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-11-30T16:32:04+02:00

This helped me with opponents that have bad net and in very late team games only.

But that's probably because I have this PC:

i5-4670k @ 4.3 Ghz
2x Gigabyte GTX 770s
16 gigs DDR3 1600Mhz
2x Sammy 250 gig 840 SSD
Asus Z-97A Mobo

I run the game at the highest settings spare shadows being set to "low." I highly recommend reducing shadow detail by the way...

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 30 Nov 2015, 16:32

Re: Stop ui lag, especially against laggers and on setons

2015-11-29T19:00:42+02:00

Yes. It would be nice if people would post whether or not this makes any difference for them and their system specs. Crotalus could you be more specific about exactly which software you want us to use to test exactly what things, and exactly what buttons to push in the above software.

I have 4790k with hyperthreading off on win 8.1.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 29 Nov 2015, 19:00