Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-11-17T10:42:46+02:00

I don't know. I thought so.

Edit:

I think more people go to the wiki to find information on the game than do so to find information on the client.

The game manual is buried under the heading "Beginner Information > Learning supcom." Its not in the table of contents.

Even if players see the link, if they have any experience with the game already they are unlikely to click it due to the way it is worded. "Gameplay Information > FAF 36xx Manual" would probably get more clicks, especially if it was stickied in the forums and elsewhere.

Statistics: Posted by Sapphire — 17 Nov 2015, 10:42

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-11-17T10:36:37+02:00

http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Learning_SupCom

sounds like a great idea!

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 17 Nov 2015, 10:36

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-11-17T10:09:55+02:00

A master document - a single wiki article that contains all the information on the wiki organized and linked into sections + a link to that from the forum, front page and client labeled "F.A.F. GAME MANUAL"?

Statistics: Posted by Sapphire — 17 Nov 2015, 10:09

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-29T13:58:05+02:00

lextoc wrote:
rxnnxs wrote:...

Please make your posts easier to read by capitalizing your sentences and using paragraphs (in a better way).

Maybe you could make for us several example posts explaining basic structure of post, where to put capital letters and when to hit enter? Gorton will surely help you with that.

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 29 Oct 2015, 13:58

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-29T12:49:42+02:00

rxnnxs wrote:
naaah, not exactly the amount of (i.e.) beetles that have to sent to transport and with what command beforehand and if shift is presse dfrom the player is also not shown.
and you don't see what command was given and how. ferry or move or whatever.
but you are right, observating replays pressing shift shows much of what was going on, but not all.
or lets say groundfire. i doubt this is seen very good. or the attack move with alt..
those teaching vids are really a good way to goto and of course a training session is really worth much.

but the op has a very good point. it needs a very easy to find page where all those "did you know" and "how do I.." are found.
and without any other tuff and blabla, just the plain info and the links to good vids.
a good place would be inside FAF or here in the forums where it is really condensed down to one thread that is always up to date and taken care of.

Please make your posts easier to read by capitalizing your sentences and using paragraphs (in a better way).

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 29 Oct 2015, 12:49

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-29T11:04:02+02:00

Maybe a couple of links to the wiki in the tutorial tab wouldn't hurt (which is outdated HARDCORE, tutorial tab that is).

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 29 Oct 2015, 11:04

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-29T10:46:25+02:00

rxnnxs wrote:
speed2 wrote:Someone who joins FAF today has the comfort of all the info written on wiki, including spread attack/move. And as always if you find somehting missing there, you can always add it.

lets do it

yeah lets do it right? http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 29 Oct 2015, 10:46

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-29T13:36:43+02:00

Ceneraii wrote:
Eh why would you search in forums to find that out... Watch replay, hold shift. Super easy stuff xD

naaah, not shown is exactly the amount of (i.e.) beetles that have to sent to the transport and with what command beforehand and if shift is pressed from the player is also not shown.

Also you don't see what command was given and how. ferry or move or whatever.

But you are right, observating replays pressing shift shows much of what was going on, but not all.

Or lets say groundfire. i doubt this is seen very good. or the attack move with alt..

Those teaching vids are really a good way to goto and of course a training session is really worth much.

But the op has a very good point. it needs a very easy way to find a page where all those "did you know" and "how do I.." are found.

And without any other stuff and blabla, just the plain info and the links to good vids.

A good place would be inside FAF or here in the forums where it is really condensed down to one thread that is always up to date and is taken care of.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 23 Oct 2015, 23:07

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T19:34:39+02:00

I didn't know 'bout the hotkey build commands until I joined BC and Lextoc gave me a good lesson on its use. That setup alone single-handed gave me a boost in all my gameplay.

I agree there are MANY subtle commands in the game but saying "they must be known to all" is kind of ridiculous. I wholeheartedly agree with lextoc in the sense that the game takes a lot of time to learn and master.

It might be better to make Youtube channel's like Colonel Sheppard and Speed2's "School of FaF" better known that give walk-through steps on the game's functionality.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 23 Oct 2015, 19:34

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T19:24:47+02:00

Exotic_Retard wrote:
boys boys boys......

http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Unit_Micro

all you need to do is fill in the blanks : D

The problem with that page is knowing that it exists and being able to reach it without having it book marked. There need to be clear links to this material.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 23 Oct 2015, 19:24

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T14:23:59+02:00

Eh why would you search in forums to find that out... Watch replay, hold shift. Super easy stuff xD

Statistics: Posted by Ceneraii — 23 Oct 2015, 14:23

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T12:30:04+02:00

Who knows if this is true:
SACUs rebuild all that you told them to protect.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 23 Oct 2015, 12:30

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T12:27:44+02:00

lextoc wrote:
Isn't this one of the fun parts of FA? That you can still learn stuff after 2 years of playing it?

yeah it is kind of fun. i like it and have also the willingnes to find all that out. but sometimes it is even for me to annoying to find out. i just let it happen that others have better mods and so on.
and other people do not enjoy this. they hop off the wagon even before it begins to gain speed..
and it is not fun to lose every game to all those tactics that are unknown.
and nif you then have the time to watch the replay and find out what has happened... you have to know how to do it right...
this all is not that funny anymore...

lets say example one:
your ACU explodes by something. you are dead and watch the game later..
it was a TML snipe or an aeon air snipe. or whatever..
you find it out, you know it next time and take care..

example two:
the enemy starts hover bombing you or is transporting units into your base or delivers walking bombs that are exploding right into your ACU face.

you try to learn from your failures and faults and try to do it by yourself.. but .. fail, and fail.. and even after searching in the forums you hardly find out how you yourself hover bomb others..
or get units in your transport and deliver them in the correct way..

i have one friend who installs FA occasionally (once in two years, after i have to tell him how good it is) and who just rages about units shooting in the dust... well well.... those people better play other games.. :-/

and at the top of any page should stand: WARNING: THIS GAME WILL FRUSTRATE YOU (and you have to learn to cope with that)

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 23 Oct 2015, 12:27

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T12:19:07+02:00

boys boys boys......

http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Unit_Micro

all you need to do is fill in the blanks : D

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 23 Oct 2015, 12:19

Re: Something must be done to unstealth supcom fa features

2015-10-23T12:15:47+02:00

Isn't this one of the fun parts of FA? That you can still learn stuff after 2 years of playing it?

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 23 Oct 2015, 12:15