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Re: game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-17T07:57:56+02:00

So reports are say based on your "input" of say word choice and not say from a "game/match stats file" for posting??

Not trying to imply interest of difference but still..

Besides, say the "slideshows" usually has the better "power point" to say find for the place of lesser if maybe still for interest to Game Reports for the "inquire/inquiry/enquiry/enquire"..least for lesser rather than point rather for slideshows or "power" there of..

But does sound like a good idea, but how seems to be a good question..

Spoiler: show

Statistics: Posted by =M.V.K.= — 17 Aug 2015, 07:57

Re: game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-12T11:33:58+02:00

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
Main crap:
1. As Philip gave away initiative, eco and island for oportunity to hurt SC(1st air and bomber); you have to attack him early with t1 bombers and drops. He had nothing. MB even spam land facs at his beach.
2. Eco managment - total crap. Very late mexes, early -100 power(coud have avoided with a little beter manual reclaim), 0 assist on mex upgrade(WTF), waste of build power early(no BO = no Setons)
3. Hover counter - pathetic. 6 t1 naval facs + 8 frigs from you against 17(!!!) t2 land facs from Philip. Guess who won. Do you see how absurd that was? A guy with weaker eco uses mass ineffecient units to win against stronger eco! ABSURD. Frigs eat hover easy. And you know he will use hover cuz that' all he had left to do. So no matter what - spam t1 naval facs. Beach or mid will attack you with hover.
4. After his air first it would be technical matter for PRO level player to win fast.
5. That t4 bomber...

I blame all this on ui lag which gets worse and worse with game size. What I can do with t1 air first 5 min is completely different from 30 min(I am sure everyone gets different degrees of this)

selecting engies and manually assisting mexes takes time

that t4 bomber was the result of a nice dodge by beach will always do ground attack from now on

point 3 is the story of my life in FA

thanks for point 4

and submerged destroyers were a pain against floating shit

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
PS i belive in you TA. You can be the first ladder guy that plays setons good. GOOO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEdUuuK ... freload=10

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 12 Aug 2015, 11:33

Re: game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-12T11:08:53+02:00

I don't suck, my allies are empty spots.(c) SC

fixed

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 12 Aug 2015, 11:08

Re: game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-12T11:04:11+02:00

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
Seton's http://replay.faforever.com/3747578. For TA, who demonstrates typical ladder skill set - reaction/awareness, scouting, good encounters. But suck in big non stop battle.

I don't suck, my allies are empty spots.
Thanks for the post, this is what I had in mind, I hope more people make these.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 12 Aug 2015, 11:04

Re: game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-12T11:10:55+02:00

Seton's http://replay.faforever.com/3747578. For TA, who demonstrates typical ladder skill set - reaction/awareness, scouting, good encounters. But suck in big non stop battle.

Good thing are as mentioned:
1. Good reaction with inties to defend SC
2. Good t1 bombers everywhere: to Foley, assisting 1st rush with frigates, to mid, against hover.
3. Good early scouts, won t1 air.

And at that point i start thinking that TA finally took Seton's seriously and prepared well. But then things start happening.

Main crap:
1. As Philip gave away initiative, eco and island for oportunity to hurt SC(1st air and bomber); you have to attack him early with t1 bombers and drops. He had nothing. MB even spam land facs at his beach.
2. Eco managment - total crap. Very late mexes, early -100 power(coud have avoided with a little beter manual reclaim), 0 assist on mex upgrade(WTF), waste of build power early(no BO = no Setons)
3. Hover counter - pathetic. 6 t1 naval facs + 8 frigs from you against 17(!!!) t2 land facs from Philip. Guess who won. Do you see how absurd that was? A guy with weaker eco uses mass ineffecient units to win against stronger eco! ABSURD. Frigs eat hover easy. And you know he will use hover cuz that' all he had left to do. So no matter what - spam t1 naval facs. Beach or mid will attack you with hover.
4. After his air first it would be technical matter for PRO level player to win fast.
5. That t4 bomber...

Use that:
1. Sera cruisers suck hard. So to get his eco use drops.
2. Add float arty when rushing with frigs
3. Send 1-2 bombers to beach's 3mex expansion. They always have 10-20 engies there for upgrade/storages. Or/and drop.
4. Use t3 and t2 stationary AA at sea if you are not aeon or uef (when holding water near opponent base)
5. If you are not confident with bomber micro, better dont try at all. Wasting to much time and inties will get it faster. Move inside and drop where you can. It was not the matter of killing specific targets. Just Build power in general and better at spawn.

Here some screens:

1. at 3:48 you just started 2 mexes with 0 assist. 2 secs ago you were overflowing 150 power. Eco level of <1000.

Spoiler: show

2. place for naval fac. So you can build only 1 anti nuke

Spoiler: show

3. 2 of your 6 naval facs were building engies. So 4 naval against 17 t2 land. omfg.

Spoiler: show

4. Waste of early build power. After hydro i use 2 engies to build pgens there. SC uses 2 to go up towards small beach and build mexes

Spoiler: show

PS i belive in you TA. You can be the first ladder guy that plays setons good. GOOO!

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 12 Aug 2015, 10:30

game reports - explain why you or someone else is a noob

2015-08-12T07:15:35+02:00

Rule: Post play by play walls of text relating to your replays, using any format you think is good or convenient.

Back in gpgnet days before there were casts people used to write up play by play reviews of games. It would be nice to bring this back in some form.
Watching yourself lose and writing down what you did wrong or right is a good way to get better, furthermore reading these should also be a good learning tool for others.

Generally try to get the replay numbers in there, also don't try to catch everything.
Example:

Twin Rivers 3745786
mephi(aeon) vs TA(cyb)
From TA point of view
BO: Land, mexes/pgens, air, pgens, land
fac: eelessetsE
LAB taking a longer path than necessary, then just sits there
bomber out first scouted and killed
a spread of 3 scouts giving intel
air loss stupid attack with intie 2v1 bad air fac way point
4:30 slight power stall, too much mass
loss of scouts 4:45
a single air scout
total air loss again
top expansion side under thread from auroas, no radar, can't judhe the side of the force
acu out to meet regular spot for enemy acu 6 min
total air loss resulted in poor intel
scouts on sides, islands still free 6:30
bomber to side to secure 6:45
minimal loss of mexes
7 min a mix of medusa and mantis pushing ahead on both sides, acu retreat in mid
see enemy drop on top island 7:30
engineer that went to bottom island does not finish factory(bomber)
at 8 min tanks in a drop to top island
no t2 mexes ytet, enemy has t2 mexes
acu fighting unknown forces in mid
8:45 top island nearly secured, engineers present
9 min, massive aurora pushin is defended poorly
bottom island secured 9:30
enemy has 4 t2 mexes to my 0
scouts see a t2 pgen at 10 min
some trouble on top island from drops and bombers around 10:15
bomber harass on bottom island
poor scouting, seeing everything but the enemy hq
11 min have no idea where enemy acu is, but see hq for first time and it is t3 land
more t2 mexes for enemy
still problems getting mexes on side islands
t2 air is built hoping for a snipe but power stalling hard
see first harbs at 12 min, full retreat (didn't actually realize there was a t3 land hq
total power stall trying to get that t2 pgen
12:45 finish pgen, a t1 drop on bottom side
acu out to meet a couple harbs no upgrades
8 t2 mexes for enemy
acu bearly survives killing 3 harbs
harb drop on bottom island, no chance
corsairs targetting enemy t2 pgens but they are shielded and there are almost 3 of them
veteran enemy harbs raping t1
corsairs fail, time to gg
15:10 corsairs target and kill a couple harbs
a harb takes top island
total mass stall 15:30
lots of paused t1 land factories
harbs raping...
t3 land at 16 min
loss of air control
gg 16:30
mephi 61k mass 1000000 energy
TA 52k mass 600000 energy

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 12 Aug 2015, 07:15