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Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T14:55:56+02:00

HateDread wrote:
IceDreamer wrote:Overall - T3 Air nerfed. T1 landspam nerfed. OC more essential. Support Factories introduced for easier land expansion and teching. T3 Mobile AA introduced to help nerf T3 Air. Most previously underused units buffed to usable levels. SCUs now powerful enough to be used. Shields nerfed to dissuade uber-turtling. 56 bazillion bugs fixed (Honestly, this ALONE is reason enough to play FAF). I think that covers the big ones.

That's a real shame - I love shields. Playing compstomps against the AI and shielding up for the long-haul is great cooperative experience

The shields weren't nerfed to the ground, and you can still turtle with them. They were tweaked to make withstanding prolonged T3 static artillery bombardments harder.

Statistics: Posted by CodingSquirrel — 06 Jul 2015, 14:55

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T14:41:29+02:00

HateDread wrote:
That's the thing - if there's vanilla SupCom, why not just have vanilla FA as well? It'd serve as a nice gateway for anyone hesitant to make the switch (like me), and would thus attract more players to FAF. Isn't having more options in the spirit of FAF, as I understand it?

Vanilla Supcom has had no extra stuff added to it so having that one version there does not detract from itself or FAF. Having multiple versions on FA on FAF will fracture the amount of people on average playing the same build and by extension, fracture the community. Plus there are very few people playing on Steam these days so there is no real benefit to it.

With regards to your later question about the balance, it really is a significantly better game than it used to be you really just have to get your head around the fact that some of your toys operate slightly differently to how they did before. In respect of shielded bases on big AI compstop games, there are still plenty of mods that can help with that sort of thing and many others (like T4 shields for example) and with FAF they are much easier to locate install and play with then on Steam.

Statistics: Posted by Gyle — 06 Jul 2015, 14:41

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T14:11:15+02:00

IceDreamer wrote:
Overall - T3 Air nerfed. T1 landspam nerfed. OC more essential. Support Factories introduced for easier land expansion and teching. T3 Mobile AA introduced to help nerf T3 Air. Most previously underused units buffed to usable levels. SCUs now powerful enough to be used. Shields nerfed to dissuade uber-turtling. 56 bazillion bugs fixed (Honestly, this ALONE is reason enough to play FAF). I think that covers the big ones.

That's a real shame - I love shields. Playing compstomps against the AI and shielding up for the long-haul is great cooperative experience

Statistics: Posted by HateDread — 06 Jul 2015, 14:11

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T14:07:38+02:00

Overall - T3 Air nerfed. T1 landspam nerfed. OC more essential. Support Factories introduced for easier land expansion and teching. T3 Mobile AA introduced to help nerf T3 Air. Most previously underused units buffed to usable levels. SCUs now powerful enough to be used. Shields nerfed to dissuade uber-turtling. 56 bazillion bugs fixed (Honestly, this ALONE is reason enough to play FAF). I think that covers the big ones.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 06 Jul 2015, 14:07

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T13:58:25+02:00

If you want to play the native steam balance on FAF, you can make your own mod for it, nobody stops you in doing so.

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 06 Jul 2015, 13:58

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T13:35:56+02:00

all mods work.

just start using it HateDread .. its good ... you will see

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 06 Jul 2015, 13:35

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T13:06:42+02:00

Wiki is a good source of information about FAF http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 06 Jul 2015, 13:06

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T12:47:09+02:00

Blodir wrote:
Yeah all files are there, a mod wouldn't be difficult to do afaik. Just nobody wants to do it

Forgive me, but do mods work with FAF? I would've thought it'd only be vetted mods approved by the community or something.

Statistics: Posted by HateDread — 06 Jul 2015, 12:47

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T12:45:06+02:00

Yeah all files are there, a mod wouldn't be difficult to do afaik. Just nobody wants to do it

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 06 Jul 2015, 12:45

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T12:44:06+02:00

Blodir wrote:
HateDread wrote:That's the thing - if there's vanilla SupCom, why not just have vanilla FA as well? It'd serve as a nice gateway for anyone hesitant to make the switch (like me), and would thus attract more players to FAF. Isn't having more options in the spirit of FAF, as I understand it?

Sure, you'll just have to find someone to do it. The thing is, nobody who has played FAF wants to go back to vanilla FA, so you'll have a hard time finding someone to de-grade the game for you.

Aren't all the original files and stats already in? Or does FAF replace it all?

Statistics: Posted by HateDread — 06 Jul 2015, 12:44

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T12:41:49+02:00

HateDread wrote:
That's the thing - if there's vanilla SupCom, why not just have vanilla FA as well? It'd serve as a nice gateway for anyone hesitant to make the switch (like me), and would thus attract more players to FAF. Isn't having more options in the spirit of FAF, as I understand it?

Sure, you'll just have to find someone to do it. The thing is, nobody who has played FAF wants to go back to vanilla FA, so you'll have a hard time finding someone to de-grade the game for you. Even if there is such a noble goal of bringing more players into faf behind it

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 06 Jul 2015, 12:41

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T12:27:17+02:00

Anihilnine wrote:
need a wiki to welcome users from steam... this question has been answered many times ... need to explain engy mod etc

dont understand why we have vanilla supcom but not vanilla FA but whatever ...

listen to speed - FAF is better

That's the thing - if there's vanilla SupCom, why not just have vanilla FA as well? It'd serve as a nice gateway for anyone hesitant to make the switch (like me), and would thus attract more players to FAF. Isn't having more options in the spirit of FAF, as I understand it?

Statistics: Posted by HateDread — 06 Jul 2015, 12:27

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T09:17:19+02:00

need a wiki to welcome users from steam... this question has been answered many times ... need to explain engy mod etc

dont understand why we have vanilla supcom but not vanilla FA but whatever ...

listen to speed - FAF is better

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 06 Jul 2015, 09:17

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T08:59:14+02:00

Hmm okay, might check it out. Is there a condensed list of general changes? I.e. not specifics per-unit, but what was generally changed, at a glance?

Statistics: Posted by HateDread — 06 Jul 2015, 08:59

Re: Does FAF come with FA vanilla options?

2015-07-06T08:57:49+02:00

And its not just bug fixes and balance changes that faf brings, its all the new maps and mods, that are easy to use. FAF also improved UI, integrated several usefull mods like hotbuilding, reclaim counter, split attack and many more.

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 06 Jul 2015, 08:57