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Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-08T23:19:43+02:00

Gun, hold air to a stalemate (don't overproduce or the gun will never finish in time...), and get some t1 pd up at expansions with a few t1 arties to stop the Fervors from taking them out...

I watched a replay where keyser got harbs out at minute 11:30 on Open Palms and you really can expect them at 13-14+ from most players these days. Apply AS MUCH pressure as possible and use TMLs to take out the t2 fact upgrading to t3 if you can. Aeon's TMD is very good at stopping missiles, but it's tiny-ass defense radius is something that most people forget.

KEEP AN EYE ON THAT HQ AND TAKE IT OUT.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 08 Jun 2015, 23:19

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-04T01:40:25+02:00

With seraphim, t2 rush is pretty much always the answer to your problems, thanks to the oh so lovely illshivah.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 04 Jun 2015, 01:40

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-04T01:20:22+02:00

Cool thanks for the tips, I've been playing a lot of seraphim and I think I've just been neglecting pushing t2 land fast enough. I usually make some amount of bombers but not a high count. Most maps I go second air and have a factory template of bomber/scout/3 inti/bomber/3 inti repeat. I find it hard to know when going for gun is safe, especially on a smaller map where I don't know if I can survive that much down time on production.

Statistics: Posted by benikens — 04 Jun 2015, 01:20

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T22:19:36+02:00

I'm with Mr-Smith. T2 rush is normally the way to go against aeon

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 03 Jun 2015, 22:19

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T16:52:23+02:00

I usually play Cybran, but still vs Aeon t1 I go depending on teh map for gun or t2 land, or very rarely for t2 air

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 03 Jun 2015, 16:52

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T16:38:17+02:00

I like to play with Aeon and for me the Sera T1 bombers are a pain in the a**!
Gun can be countered with the range update of the Aeon commander.

Try to get 2 or 3 bombers out and use the "spread attack" command (shift-G or only G) to kill even large groups of auroras relatively easy.

Statistics: Posted by PsychoBoB — 03 Jun 2015, 16:38

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T16:28:17+02:00

Always go gun with Sera ACU. You typically pick up a few levels of vet against T1 spam until they figure out its a no go. You can also once secure go T2 ACU without losing the gun. Hell yea!. Make sure you pick the right gun upgrade too, not the 7 min one. Sera ACU can also get that other gun upgrade during T2-T3 transition which makes the ACU a real beast. You can teleport too, what really? Yes Really, and that makes for another surprising tactical advantage late game or to finish an ACU that was hit by strats but not wiped out. I wouldn't teleport against Cybran ACU but UEF, other Sera or Aeon lol, boom dead. Just watch out for Strats or EXPs. I think my favorite late game is shield layers with Arty though. Against a stand off threat they just have such large powerful shields they turtle even better than UEF in my opinion. Against close up late game firepower it is all about layers of defenses if you can build them to act as attrition, gunships & Arty for the perimeter assault, strats for in close, and PD behind those damn shield layers to finish anything that gets though that, usually only the heaviest of EXPs or waves of SABs

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 03 Jun 2015, 16:28

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T11:44:12+02:00

to have the gun you need at least +300 power income and +10 mass income. You can push it really early but you risk to be overrun by t1 spam.
it's you to see what's the best against your current opponent. you can upgrade your ACU to the gun with +- 10 pgen and your hydro( you need to pause everything else if you want to have it really fast) i don't what's better, build more power and assist with engi or build just enough power and don't assit the ACU. the first delay the beginning of the upgrade but it's completed faster, the others can begin sooner but take much longer time.

EDIT: i think the first option is safer because you can build more units before beginning your gun. Beginning the gun just when you have the power to do it is more risky.

Statistics: Posted by SilverKronos — 03 Jun 2015, 11:44

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T09:54:06+02:00

Aurion wrote:
I think gun is also quite strong.

what's the eco and timing for that because I always seem to get it wrong.

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 03 Jun 2015, 09:54

Re: Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T09:16:33+02:00

benikens wrote:
Should I be pushing for a fast t2 factory to get t2 chicken bots?
Should I be trying to take air control and bombing them?

Both are interesting and really strong for Seraphim vs Aeon (epic bombers, Illshavoh rape Aurora). I think gun is also quite strong.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 03 Jun 2015, 09:16

Seraphim vs Aeon

2015-06-03T08:45:33+02:00

I play phim on ladder most of the time, on some maps I have a hard time dealing with Aeon t1. I was wondering what strategies I should be employing to beat them? For example I was playing theta passage the other day and got stomped, I felt like it was mostly due to a few bad engagements where I lost a lot of tanks to kiting.

Should I be pushing for a fast t2 factory to get t2 chicken bots?
Should I be trying to take air control and bombing them?

Also not looking for Aeon OP pls nerf comments, this isn't about balance it's about strategy.

Statistics: Posted by benikens — 03 Jun 2015, 08:45