Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-17T09:54:55+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
Don't worry, the integration & integration method is very well planned.

To be transparent, the first needed is the mod to be completed (no placeholder unit/texture or missing function).

I'd really love to hear what else do you have planned zep? Besides GW, nomads and balance... where else is FAF headed?

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 17 Feb 2014, 09:54

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-17T09:34:41+02:00

Resin_Smoker wrote:
I'm back into modding if anyone needs my skills...

Resin

Very good
Maybe you can help Brute51 with the Nomads mod:
https://bitbucket.org/Brute51/nomads/is ... =-priority

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 17 Feb 2014, 09:34

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-17T07:23:09+02:00

I'm back into modding if anyone needs my skills...

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 17 Feb 2014, 07:23

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-16T22:37:33+02:00

Me, Pip and a few others been working on this for a few years now - long enough. I would like to finish it this year... Anyone testing the mod and reporting problems when he finds one will help a lot!

Statistics: Posted by Brute51 — 16 Feb 2014, 22:37

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-16T14:04:35+02:00

necxelos wrote:
Any ETA? Something to hold into?
I'm sure that mod of such quality (which is still kicking unlike some dead projects) have good timeplan (it wouldn't go that far without good planning and work distribution) and all authors can't wait to have their moment of glory

No, they don't have such thing.

Remember it's done by people on their free time. The ETA depend on their free time.
Could be in a week, could be in 5 years.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Feb 2014, 14:04

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-16T10:21:44+02:00

necxelos wrote:
Any ETA?

In the meanwhile all players can test the nomads mod

Post balance issues here:
viewforum.php?f=16

Post bugs here:
viewforum.php?f=17

You can see all issues here:
https://bitbucket.org/Brute51/nomads/is ... tatus=open

Thanks to Brute51 for his excellent work!!!

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 16 Feb 2014, 10:21

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-16T03:00:07+02:00

Any ETA? Something to hold into?
I'm sure that mod of such quality (which is still kicking unlike some dead projects) have good timeplan (it wouldn't go that far without good planning and work distribution) and all authors can't wait to have their moment of glory

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 16 Feb 2014, 03:00

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T21:42:43+02:00

Don't worry, the integration & integration method is very well planned.

To be transparent, the first needed is the mod to be completed (no placeholder unit/texture or missing function).

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 15 Feb 2014, 21:42

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T21:40:30+02:00

Golol wrote:
FACT: Nobody will agree to incorporate mod until it's balanced, people will allways whine.
FACT: You need feedback to finish balancing but noone will voluntarily give You those.
CONCLUSION: The only way to go is to incorporate the Nomads in their current state and leave people no choice!!!

Zep is the boss here.
I am pretty certain that only as soon as he cares about implementing nomads (when hes done with other stuff like galactic war), the mod will get implemented.
Before that people will be against implementing it, because it has not been officially verified.
just wait for Zep.

Thank You - Glad to hear that

Just wanted to help - so many people out here are afraid of taking actions

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 15 Feb 2014, 21:40

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T20:02:31+02:00

FACT: Nobody will agree to incorporate mod until it's balanced, people will allways whine.
FACT: You need feedback to finish balancing but noone will voluntarily give You those.
CONCLUSION: The only way to go is to incorporate the Nomads in their current state and leave people no choice!!!

Zep is the boss here.
I am pretty certain that only as soon as he cares about implementing nomads (when hes done with other stuff like galactic war), the mod will get implemented.
Before that people will be against implementing it, because it has not been officially verified.
just wait for Zep.

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 15 Feb 2014, 20:02

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T17:24:05+02:00

Some methodology advice (cause most people seem to not understand human mind):
FACT: Nobody will agree to incorporate mod until it's balanced, people will allways whine.
FACT: You need feedback to finish balancing but noone will voluntarily give You those.
CONCLUSION: The only way to go is to incorporate the Nomads in their current state and leave people no choice!!!

Even games like StarCraft 2 which are goddamn ESL games, aren't balanced after premiere. They are being balanced based on players feedback over time. The very same players that wasn't asked if they want an expansion (HOTS in this case) were willingly giving feedback and helping because they had no other choice!!

P.S. Did anyone ever tried to ask children if they want dinner? Most will answer NO, WE WANT COOKIES but in the end they will get sick. Same mechanism work here. People dont know what they want so asking them is pointless. Let's do the job and give them what they need.

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 15 Feb 2014, 17:24

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T16:29:15+02:00

Brute51 wrote:
@Dragonfire: oh weird, the repository is public, not private. Perhaps you need a bitbucket account?

I am logged in ...
I have access to the source,
but there is no issue tracker ...

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 15 Feb 2014, 16:29

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T16:20:51+02:00

@Apofenas: that is the intend exactly! To have a well balanced game that everyone can enjoy.

@Dragonfire: oh weird, the repository is public, not private. Perhaps you need a bitbucket account?

Statistics: Posted by Brute51 — 15 Feb 2014, 16:20

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T15:28:23+02:00

Apofenas wrote:
I'm not against integrating nomads. I'm against integrating this mod with its current balance and current balance of FAF. There will need to be a lot of balance works. And when the balance is pretty good - sure, do it.

Atm nobody gives feedback ..
and if you did not want nomads into your game ... ban them.
I am sure more people try Nomads, if they integrated in faf ...

Same like GW ...

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 15 Feb 2014, 15:28

Re: Allowing ranked games in nomads.

2014-02-15T15:21:26+02:00

pip wrote:
Nomads integration is a part of FAF roadmap, wether you like them or not. If you don't want to contribute to their balance, and never intend to play them, that's all fine, but you're wasting your time posting against their integration.

I'm not against integrating nomads. I'm against integrating this mod with its current balance and current balance of FAF. There will need to be a lot of balance works. And when the balance is pretty good - sure, do it.

Statistics: Posted by Apofenas — 15 Feb 2014, 15:21