Why is a monkeylord so weak

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Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Desyatiy » 09 Jan 2019, 10:45

Hi,
Spider costs 20k of mass, less than other experimental units. 7k less than the colossus.
But he has two times less hp and a terrible attack radius (bricks more), not to mention the absence of Schwarzenegger’s hands at the colossus. Also the same movement speed.
Why is a monkeylord so weak?
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Geosearchef » 09 Jan 2019, 11:22

It's pretty cheap so u can get it before any other experimental and it's main weapon has an insanely high damage per second. Additionally you have to consider that a spider has stealth.
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Desyatiy » 09 Jan 2019, 11:37

Geosearchef wrote:It's pretty cheap so u can get it before any other experimental and it's main weapon has an insanely high damage per second. Additionally you have to consider that a spider has stealth.

Colossus have same dps with his arms, and for 7k mass have more range attack and 55k hp bonus
Stealth? I thought that everyone who has a 1000 rating learned to use scouts...
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Endranii » 09 Jan 2019, 11:46

Scouts? I thought that everyone who has 1800 rating learned to hide his shit.
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Franck83 » 09 Jan 2019, 16:09

Colossus main gun 2.5k DPS

Monkeylord main gun 4k DPS
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Deisu » 18 Jan 2019, 19:20

Geosearchef wrote:It's pretty cheap so u can get it before any other experimental and it's main weapon has an insanely high damage per second. Additionally you have to consider that a spider has stealth.


This is a lot less true than it used to be. The monkey used to be the "SURPRISE" you could scrape out as Cybran to turn the tide of a battle, or something you could slam out to turn a team fight when people weren't ready. But with the T3-T4 land rework its much less so and I find that on large maps they almost always end up barely getting to the fight before a colossus is up and running and gunning it down.

That might just be me though.
I still think the monkey is viable at least, but its not what it once was.
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby keyser » 18 Jan 2019, 19:38

well proportionally the ML is the exp that took the less BT nerf, it does cost a little bit more 1k iirc, but if any thing it should pop up way sooner than other exp, also it is now stronger against T3.
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Wesmania » 19 Jan 2019, 00:00

keyser wrote:well proportionally the ML is the exp that took the less BT nerf, it does cost a little bit more 1k iirc, but if any thing it should pop up way sooner than other exp, also it is now stronger against T3.


ML is outranged by T3.5 and percies have even more alpha now, so that improvement against T3 is slight.
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Bullydozer » 28 Jan 2019, 18:22

Percies have less alpha now though
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Re: Why is a monkeylord so weak

Postby Farmsletje » 28 Jan 2019, 18:55

also less hp pog
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