seraphim regen field switch with T2

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seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 27 Oct 2019, 12:14

As topic say.

Regen field is all time disappointment when someone tries it (expect for regen navy). There is two reasons why it is.
first is that its kind of shit.
second and main is, that it disallows to build gun. What is essencial when someone go with acu on the battlefield.

When it switch with T2-T3 upgrade, then it can be build with gun, for very agresive upgrades and T2 for more safe /TML choice.
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby keyser » 27 Oct 2019, 12:42

you may want to take a look at this pr.
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2881
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 27 Oct 2019, 12:56

keyser wrote:you may want to take a look at this pr.
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2881


it pretty much helps and solves the first problem. But still gun is nearly every time better option, while a mighty range and OC. Later it should sound great, but whiteout range you will not run you ACU into battle where there is T3 units.
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby keyser » 27 Oct 2019, 15:08

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
keyser wrote:you may want to take a look at this pr.
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2881


it pretty much helps and solves the first problem. But still gun is nearly every time better option, while a mighty range and OC. Later it should sound great, but whiteout range you will not run you ACU into battle where there is T3 units.

if you look closely into this PR, you will see that the regen field is moved on left arm, so you can stack it with gun.
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 27 Oct 2019, 15:18

Ohh, i make jast a fast look. Great, then its done. perfect! <3
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby Apofenas » 27 Oct 2019, 16:34

So it will be:
RH: Gun and RAS/ARAS
Back: Tele, TML and (Double)Nano
LH: Tech, restoration field and shit gun

So it means you can get ARAS+Double nano XDDDDDDD

Having tech and RF on same hand means that it may turn from upgrade-that-isnt-gun into upgrade-that-isnt-tech like UEF nano. In late game you used to have an option to drop gun and make RF for cheap regen, not sure if someone would drop tech upgrade for it. And than ability to have ARAS and Double nano is something rly strong.

Wasn't it better to swap Tech with Restoration field? Yes you wouldn't be able to get gun+t2, but Gun+resto field would be a good alternative.
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Re: seraphim regen field switch with T2

Postby keyser » 27 Oct 2019, 17:52

Apofenas wrote:So it will be:
RH: Gun and RAS/ARAS
Back: Tele, TML and (Double)Nano
LH: Tech, restoration field and shit gun

So it means you can get ARAS+Double nano XDDDDDDD

Having tech and RF on same hand means that it may turn from upgrade-that-isnt-gun into upgrade-that-isnt-tech like UEF nano.

Wasn't it better to swap Tech with Restoration field? Yes you wouldn't be able to get gun+t2, but Gun+resto field would be a good alternative.


Goal is to make people choose between T2 and regen aura for their push.

And than ability to have ARAS and Double nano is something rly strong.

if you are such in the late game that you can afford double nano for safety, then ARAS doesn't matter anymore.

In late game you used to have an option to drop gun and make RF for cheap regen, not sure if someone would drop tech upgrade for it.

i honestly don't see anyone getting regen aura in the late game.
The upgrade is overall not used, this will at least allow aggressive player to use it.
It's also a little nerf to its usage for water. Where you could stack T2 and regen field (which is really strong since it give lot of regen on destro). You can still do the nano if you want some survivability.
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