Can we get cheaper tech 2?

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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Morax » 16 Nov 2017, 19:15

This has been discussed for a very long time and the solution the balance team are looking toward is "nerf t3 stage" which is in turn going to make t2 a bit more relevant... Highly doubt it will do much tho.

But why make a slow moving obsidian when a harb is as fast as a mantis and has nearly the DPS of a Percy?

Kind of lame they didn't address the length of time t2 is dominant rather give it maybe a little edge.
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby moonbearonmeth » 17 Nov 2017, 05:10

Morax wrote:But why make a slow moving obsidian when a harb is as fast as a mantis and has nearly the DPS of a Percy?


Maybe you won't. Maybe harb rush will still remain dominant for Aeon, but maybe harb rush will be a little easier to deal with with the T2 of other factions.

Maybe we'll have to wait patiently for the test release.
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Morax » 19 Nov 2017, 16:30

You don't have to even wait: there are no changes to the t2 units nor structures, so how would that be seen?

Harb is getting a bit nerfed but it will still wreck t2.
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby keyser » 19 Nov 2017, 16:36

Harb is getting a bit nerfed but it will still wreck t2.

have you even played a game with balance mod ?
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Morax » 19 Nov 2017, 16:57

keyser wrote:
Harb is getting a bit nerfed but it will still wreck t2.

have you even played a game with balance mod ?


Not a lot and I really don't care since after hearing from people in Mephi stream they are afraid to increase time it takes to get t3. T2 got more difficult to get so why can't t3?

But if this is what the players want so be it. Can't wait to see drawn out games because t3 is weak like yesterday where the matches lasted way too long.

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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Mephi » 19 Nov 2017, 17:02

Morax wrote:
Not a lot and I really don't care


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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Morax » 19 Nov 2017, 17:11

Mephi wrote:
Morax wrote:
Not a lot and I really don't care


props for that attitude


Would you test or care about the patch if you completely disliked it?
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby keyser » 19 Nov 2017, 17:38

how can we listen to you if your argument are based on nothing ? you just heard mephi and you interpreted what you understood (or not).

the most basic thing to do is to test and to look at the change in the mod folder. We are still at the alpha, so we don't have change logs as of yet (so it's not as easy as reading the patchnotes like here : http://content.faforever.com/patchnotes/3688.html ).

Truth is, you should play it and you may actually like the changes.

Actually a lot of games ended at T1 or T2 stage yesterday, even if it would have been better to reach T3 on every single games for better testing.
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby Morax » 19 Nov 2017, 18:40

Because I have disliked balance ever since t2 hq land cost was increased.

I'll play the balance a bit more but I know my preferences well enough to know it's a personal opinion about how the game plays rather if it is balanced or not. You can't say it's right it wrong. I'm in the wrong only for refusing to test... That I agree on.

The actual precise adjustments are all to nerf t3 land, right? If that is overall the case I don't need to test because I already do not like it.

It's opinion; were you guys not getting mad at me for not liking Spockondodge opinion in another thread? Funny how there is a double standard here if you don't like said person's.
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Re: Can we get cheaper tech 2?

Postby keyser » 19 Nov 2017, 18:53

We are not saying it's bad that you don't agree with us. And we are not blaming you on your opinion, only saying that we can't really take it your opinion into account until you tested the balance.

you said "Harb is getting a bit nerfed but it will still wreck t2." you had no idea what were the nerf. I mean, com'on, you can do way better than this.

To be frank i'm really confused about what you are saying. You asked me if we were nerfing the harbi raiding (because you don't like it i suppose) and then you say you don't want to nerf T3, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Btw just for your information, zock did nerf the T2 HQ price, and then reduced it's price again. So the nerf wasn't that big in the end.
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