Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby briang » 08 Jun 2016, 04:40

Really once you've lost navy you've lost navy. Once you lose your options for getting back in the water are incredibly inneficient; if they weren't there'd be no point to early aggression. The key is to scout and know what your opponent is doing. If you are playing against aggressive players (that you think will push you hard at t2) you should avoid UEF.

Fatboy vs. Navy is one of the things I see new players do a lot that is just awful. It has battleship DPS, shit HP, and costs 4x more. If you have that much mass and you've lost navy you're better off putting mass into alternative eco sources like massfabs and RAS SACUs than into a useless fatboy.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Hawkei » 08 Jun 2016, 08:52

briang wrote:Really once you've lost navy you've lost navy. Once you lose your options for getting back in the water are incredibly inneficient; if they weren't there'd be no point to early aggression. The key is to scout and know what your opponent is doing. If you are playing against aggressive players (that you think will push you hard at t2) you should avoid UEF.

Fatboy vs. Navy is one of the things I see new players do a lot that is just awful. It has battleship DPS, shit HP, and costs 4x more. If you have that much mass and you've lost navy you're better off putting mass into alternative eco sources like massfabs and RAS SACUs than into a useless fatboy.


No one builds a Fatboy for the HP - and considering that Battleships are the primary target a comparable DPS is acceptable. The strength which the Fatboy and Demolishers both have over the Klink Hammer is their being mobile units. As such they can be better protected by stealth fields. Baring the TML, or T3 artillery, the Fatboy is the only UEF land asset capable of engaging with Battleships.

I would however suggest that amphibious tank, torpedo bomber, and T3 gunship spam are going to be the better options. But for these to work your team needs air control.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby biass » 08 Jun 2016, 10:08

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a fatboy is worth 35 Demolishers

a fatboy with three guns on targets (best case) is like 750 dps, considering all of it hits (it wont)

35 Demolishers gives 2625 dps, considering all of it hits (it wont)

On topic: If your enemy is UEF/Seraphim, you can shoot MML's at their destroyers because of their short range, but as a UEF player being knocked off of beach your life is essentially forfeit, Scout more, win more :)
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Exotic_Retard » 08 Jun 2016, 14:41

biass wrote:glorious mathematics

i love these. these are great.

http://www.faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.php?bp=UEL0401
so i heard that fatboys have 750 dps per gun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby biass » 08 Jun 2016, 14:44

Exotic_Retard wrote:
biass wrote:glorious mathematics

i love these. these are great.

http://www.faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.php?bp=UEL0401
so i heard that fatboys have 750 dps per gun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


im using el spooko http://spooky.github.io/unitdb/#/UEL0401 because unitsdb looks shit
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby briang » 08 Jun 2016, 17:49

Fatboy is useless vs battleships period Hawkei. Stealth means absolutely nothing; countered by spamming a 40 mass unit. The only land asset capable of effectively engaging battleships for any faction (from inland not walking in the ocean) is the Scathis.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby lextoc » 08 Jun 2016, 17:53

To water down those new subforums I'm creating this thread. As the title says, ask any questions regarding game tactics/strategy and you host Petricpwnz a.k.a Pachuriko will answer them with from his humble POV and try to give some tips. Taking questions of any lvl of gameplay.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby TheKoopa » 08 Jun 2016, 18:05

Aight guys if you want to continue this discussion make a new thread in the tactics forum, further posts will be deleted
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Hawkei » 09 Jun 2016, 03:00

TheKoopa wrote:Aight guys if you want to continue this discussion make a new thread in the tactics forum, further posts will be deleted


Sorry I misread. Didn't realise this was your personal advice thread. Please continue the UEF counter navy conversation here. http://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=12558

Moderator please feel free to relocate any posts here into that thread.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Evan_ » 11 Jul 2016, 16:00

Quick question, if I suspect my opponent is preparing to telesnipe me, and there is no safe water around to hide my acu, what is the cheapest way to gurantee safety for my acu?
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