LABs are demonstrably UP

[StefanD_]

U dont need to change labs, they are useful enogh like this.

[Lu_Xun_17]

Anaryl you win the most hilarious numbers of this betapatch!

It would be so fun to see a 24 range lab!


Labs are currently extremly well balanced imo. Those can be very effective with micro (you can't compare mass to mass. In very early game, time i way more important ressource than the lab cost itself.

[Veta]

Please read the rules. This is not an "open" balance season.

[Anaryl]

What Anaryl suggested would make them replace tanks in early games and reduce auroras to a joke, and seraphim as well.

Please support/deonstrate your assertion.

Please read the rules. This is not an "open" balance season.

And you're not a moderator.


Lu Xun

Labs are currently extremly well balanced imo.

How can they be when we all agree on the reasons on them being underpowered. So .... which?

[pip]

What Anaryl suggested would make them replace tanks in early games and reduce auroras to a joke, and seraphim as well.

Please support/deonstrate your assertion.

Faster units and longer range with also good HP will turn labs into t1 hoplites, except that they will be much cheaper compared to tanks.

[Golol]

well the double dps and half range would fucmed up because they could kill auroras in nearly 3 seconds.
and the range would be bad for the rest because they are so fast they can kite so easy

[Marko Box]

Making them harder to hit would be a nice buff without having to touch anything else about them. It would take less micro to dodge early tanks while making them ussefull in later stages for killing reclaiming engis or enemy build power and making them a viable option instead of arty drops.
Sera would be at disadvantage at early game thou without their own labs to counter enemies. And i dont think it would be technicly possible to add miss chance to a single unit

[IceDreamer]

Perhaps bump the speed up by 0.2 or 0.3, and more importantly increase the turnrates, acceleration etc so that they then respond VERY well to micro, change direction really quick etc.

[RoLa]

The only thing i would suggest is making them turn a bit faster and turn the turret 50% faster(from 180°/s to 270°/s). I wouldnt change the speed because there should be a difference between a scout and infantry.

But better dont change anything than change too much.

[RoundTabler]

Since no one seems to like the idea of changing the stats, what about changing the build time? I think that its odd that mech marines have similar build times to tanks, since they lose so badly. It would be extremely nice to see mech marines (and other labs) used as something other than minute 1 engy killers, especially since many times the other player has a tank, which nullifies the mech marine every time.