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Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-24T07:01:33+02:00

Speak for yourself KD.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 24 Dec 2015, 07:01

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-24T06:52:48+02:00

Morax wrote:
Speaking of drone abuse, check this. I'm pretty sure this is one of the most foul, blatant displays of abuse:

4191944.fafreplay

He is sort of an ass isn't he.

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 24 Dec 2015, 06:52

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T03:04:18+02:00

Morax wrote:
briang wrote:What exactly is the issue there Morax?

1 T1 AA kills both drones.

How the f*** do you get a t1 aa up in the middle when the drones are there before you.

I didn't bother because it would ahve gotten more reclaim than me and i would have power stalled, that's why.

Is the cost of the drone + the opportunity costs of a late factory worth the 3k mass? I think not. Funny how you ended up mopping the floor with them.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 18 Dec 2015, 03:04

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T02:59:14+02:00

briang wrote:
What exactly is the issue there Morax?

1 T1 AA kills both drones.

How the f*** do you get a t1 aa up in the middle when the drones are there before you.

I didn't bother because it would ahve gotten more reclaim than me and i would have power stalled, that's why.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 18 Dec 2015, 02:59

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T02:54:55+02:00

What exactly is the issue there Morax?

1 T1 AA kills both drones.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 18 Dec 2015, 02:54

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T02:54:20+02:00

And look at these fucking abusers... They're not afraid of it, 4 drones straight away...

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 18 Dec 2015, 02:54

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T02:50:00+02:00

such blatant abuse should be 100% bannable.
By now everyone knows who isn't a retard

Statistics: Posted by Sovietpride — 18 Dec 2015, 02:50

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-12-18T02:24:47+02:00

Speaking of drone abuse, check this. I'm pretty sure this is one of the most foul, blatant displays of abuse:

4191944.fafreplay

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 18 Dec 2015, 02:24

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-17T13:40:13+02:00

IceDreamer wrote:
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Yes, there is, but it's not popular. The only reason this is a problem is because ASFs have stupidly, retardedly, ridiculously high DPS. Seriously, look it up, it's off the fucking scale. The true solution to this is to do what SupCom 1 had, but not as extreme: Nuke the HP on ALL Air units, and the DPS on ALL AA weaponry to match.

Drones VS Inties is now fixed in develop.

This I would really like to see.

Any Air is ridicously strong to kill when landed. this would be a good solution.
If someone arguments against this, they like to park air on enemy ground. well... you just do not do this..
some players park their planes in enemy bases and they stay there for a long time when landed..
i do not want to come up with realism, but this behavior is sooo unrealistic right now, this would be there real solution.
nerf all air damage and Hp to a much lower level.
maybe every unit should be able to shoot every unit (like in TA).
hehe, this will never happen, but TA did it....

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 17 Nov 2015, 13:40

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-16T21:45:34+02:00

Ok i thought this was already clear ... in beta it is fixed unfortunately you cant play beta ladder. Now lets come back to my "brilliant" suggestion how to improve double drone upgrade:

Iszh wrote:
1.) Second drone upgrade costs 500 mass and adds the second drone with 25 built power for 500 mass like a t2 engi station just from begin
2.) Second drone upgrade costs 1000 mass and replaces the first drone and adds the second drone as t2 engi station drones

And for all who didnt get it yes it is a bug and only ASF should not be able to shoot drones. In beta it is fixed.

Statistics: Posted by Iszh — 16 Nov 2015, 21:45

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-16T21:26:25+02:00

speed2 wrote:
In my opinion, its a known bug and if someone is intentionally abusing it, report... and ban

I will do just that. Thank you for your input, speed.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 16 Nov 2015, 21:26

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-16T20:29:38+02:00

In my opinion, its a known bug and if someone is intentionally abusing it, report... and ban

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 16 Nov 2015, 20:29

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-16T20:22:37+02:00

Honestly someone against me on Regor VI 1v1 sent a couple drones to grab all the reclaim and holy hell did it throw the game for a loop....

You pretty much CANNOT compete with that since inties can't shoot them down. There is no way you can get an engie to reclaim to snatch it up before a drone does. It's just absolutely miserable seeing this kind of play in the game because everyone knows as well as I that there are people that will abuse it.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 16 Nov 2015, 20:22

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-16T09:00:45+02:00

We have 3 completely different kind of drones:

1. Acu drone 1 - early game rush for mass --- tech 1 buildings
2. Acu drone 2 - Useless upgrade --- tech 1 buildings
3. Station drone - mid to late game --- no tech
4. Scu drone - late game --- tech 3 buildings

While we are about to fix them can we think what to do with the second drone upgrade on acu? Would be nice if this thing can be a bit more useful. A double upgrade is mostly for late game. Aeon and sera have 40 built power t3 engis and uef and cybran only 30 which is quite op in my opinion. Would be nice if you would make the second drone late game useful. The acu t3 has 126 built power the first drone has 5 built power. What about to add the second drone like a t2 engi station 500 mass and 25 built power? What would be even better is if you upgrade second drone it costs 1000 mass so you paid 1120 mass and get 2 engi station drones.

1.) Second drone upgrade costs 500 mass and adds the second drone with 25 built power for 500 mass like a t2 engi station just from begin
2.) Second drone upgrade costs 1000 mass and replaces the first drone and adds the second drone as t2 engi station drones

Just an idea ... i doubt it would be op since uef has anyways engi stations. But might be at least an option. And the advantage would be lower built time compared to engi stations and no space needed to built. I like version 2.) more you can built a upgraded uef engi station with 2 drones each 25 built power on acu with the advantage to have it in much less built time. Not sure if it would be a good idea to leave the t1 tech in those drones, i doubt it would harm anybody.

The fix that asf cant shoot them is unfortunately needed since any kind of drone would be suicide in late game vs asf that sucks. But i think if inties are able to shoot them and ground->aa weapons thats enough. For rushing mass in begin if enemy has no t1 plane thats a nice option for uef which has no other faction it is not op at least never noticed it while watching replays of chosen for example he used it very often.

Statistics: Posted by Iszh — 16 Nov 2015, 09:00

Re: Drones... droning on and on and on

2015-11-15T21:35:21+02:00

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:
So the real question here is if we are going to get a hotfix for the inti vs drone problem in the normal game mode? I had a game last night where someone flew a shoulder drone across a FORTY FREAKING KM map and destroyed an entire expansion before I could do anything about it because I didn't have a factory down yet and he reclaimed my engy. I had plenty of interceptors, but I am pretty much left with either airlifting mobile AA into the area and chasing the damn drone around or lifting a whole load of engineers in and building AA.

This is quite frankly stupid.

Go complain at sheeo. He's been concentrating on the client to be fair, but the fix for that can be merged and shipped to beta in about 3 minutes by someone with powers. We won't be hotfixing it into the normal game because the 3652 final release is fairly close at this point.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 15 Nov 2015, 21:35