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Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-09-01T22:38:00+02:00

black-ops AFAIK is only beeing maintaned for faf

Statistics: Posted by Rowey — 01 Sep 2019, 22:38

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-09-01T21:49:03+02:00

I'm having similar problems as someone previously. My commander is invisible and I cannot build anything. I installed everything directly from the vault and double checked they are in the correct directory "/mods". Any help would be appreciated, I have Black-Ops FAF unleashed/Black-Ops FAF Exunits/Black-Ops FAF ACU's all installed but no one or combination or two or three work at all. On the ACU's mod only 2 commanders spawn.

[EDIT] I think I see my problem. I'm trying to play FAF version through Steam without the FAF client. Where can I find the most recent version of Black-Ops that is game compatible without it being the FAF version?

Statistics: Posted by Vrim — 01 Sep 2019, 21:49

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-08-12T15:38:41+02:00

Are Novax shold be able to build Aeon Artemis satellite now?

Statistics: Posted by Umenyalapkee — 12 Aug 2019, 15:38

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-22T15:21:09+02:00

Unknown Sim Mod jsut means it just not in the vault

Statistics: Posted by Rowey — 22 Jul 2019, 15:21

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-22T12:26:02+02:00

2 questions. Where would one obtain said mod update, and why does it appear as an "Unknown sim mod" in FAF?

Statistics: Posted by DDDX — 22 Jul 2019, 12:26

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-08T08:11:49+02:00

Small update. I've been very busy with work, but recently got a bit of time to smash some code out. It's gonna be a while until the next major update, but on the table are a few things:

- Significant code refactor to reduce complexity and size of the mod
- Bugfixes
- Address larger balance issues
- Combine Unleashed, ACUs, and Experimental Weapons into a single mod

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 08 Jul 2019, 08:11

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-06T07:44:55+02:00

MrTBSC wrote:
... what´s wrong with it that it isn´t in the new versions? ballancereasons or is it buggy?
do the new blackops versions work with steam FA or only FAF?

The Unit is still in the new BO version, but has other weapons. So it was redesigned.
I don't know, why this change was made.

The new Black Ops versions called "Black Ops FAF" are only working on FAF.
(that's why they have FAF in the name)

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 06 Jul 2019, 07:44

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-05T19:31:16+02:00

Uveso wrote:
Hello OxciVi,

welcome to FAForever!

The T4 Sniperbot (unitID XAL0401) is only available in very old versions of the Black Ops Unleashed mod.
Found the last version of this bot in Unleashed version 3.2

Please have in mind, this version does not work with the FAForever game version!

I uploaded the mod for you here:
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackOpsUnleashedv32.zip

Greetings, Uveso.

... what´s wrong with it that it isn´t in the new versions? ballancereasons or is it buggy?
do the new blackops versions work with steam FA or only FAF?

Statistics: Posted by MrTBSC — 05 Jul 2019, 19:31

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-05T17:45:58+02:00

Hello OxciVi,

welcome to FAForever!

The T4 Sniperbot (unitID XAL0401) is only available in very old versions of the Black Ops Unleashed mod.
Found the last version of this bot in Unleashed version 3.2

Please have in mind, this version does not work with the FAForever game version!

I uploaded the mod for you here:
http://faforever.uveso.de/forum/BlackOpsUnleashedv32.zip

Just in case you can't live without this unit, and you want to play FAforever,
then we could extract the bot from the old mod version and build a mod only with this bot,
or maybe add it to the Black Ops ExUnits mod.

Greetings, Uveso.

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 05 Jul 2019, 17:45

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-07-05T15:38:42+02:00

Hey guys,
I've played this mod for the first time like years ago. In one of the previous version, the experimental bot inquisitor from the aeon was a sniper bot but I can't find any version of this mod featuring this old unit.
Does anyone have back ups from previous blackops mod versions ?

unit description : " T4 Sniper Bot - Inquisitor Experimental Sniper unit, fires a very large beam that causes a buildup of energy at the target point, the energy is then detonated causing an explosion which destroys the target area."

Statistics: Posted by OxciVi — 05 Jul 2019, 15:38

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-06-29T05:35:41+02:00

That sounds better yeah. In terms of keeping it consistent with how hydrocarbons are in the base game, at least.

Statistics: Posted by BlackSensualist — 29 Jun 2019, 05:35

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-06-25T19:31:15+02:00

Well i looked at all powergenerators and hydrocarbons:

Code:: T1 M:75 E:750 B:00:01 +20 T1H M:160 E:800 B:00:04 +100 T2 M:1200 E:12000 B:00:21 +500 T2H M:1000 E:24750 B:00:40 +500 E:15960 +550 T3 M:3240 E:57600 B:01:08 +2500 T3H M:3000 E:74250 B:00:49 +3000 B:01:23

I would change 3 values.

Reducing the energycost for building a T2 Hydrocarbon.
A T3 hydro costs 33% more then a t3 Power generator,
so we could set 15960 (1200+33%) as masscost for the T2 Hydro
We could also increase the poweroutput by 10% because all hydros have more poweroutput then the powergenerators.

And we should also increase the buildtime for the T3 hydrocarbon.
Build time difference between T1 PG and T1 HC is 400 %
Build time difference between T2 PG and T2 HC is 100%
So we could use 25% more buildime for the T3 HC.

What do you think ?

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 25 Jun 2019, 19:31

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-06-25T17:28:48+02:00

I'm playing right now and the T2 hydrocarbon takes 5 minutes and 20 seconds for a T2 UEF engineer to build, costs 1,000 mass and 24,750 energy. The T2 power generator takes 2 minutes and 55 seconds to build, costs 1,200 mass and 12,000 energy. So the hydrocarbon takes much longer and costs twice the energy.

If it helps, I'm playing with BlackOps ACUs, Experimental units, and BlackOps Unleashed, all from the mod vault. No other gameplay changing mods that I know of.

Statistics: Posted by BlackSensualist — 25 Jun 2019, 17:28

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-06-25T07:32:07+02:00

BlackSensualist wrote:
For instance, T3 engineers were able to build all experimentals, when I was under the impression that you had to build a quantum gate and then build sACU before you could build experimentals.

Engineers can build Tech4 (Experimentals) from the beginning.
I also checked the blueprint categorie to be sure.
As example the categories from the Experimental Assault Bot (BEL0402):

Code:: Categories = { 'PRODUCTSC1', 'SELECTABLE', 'BUILTBYTIER3ENGINEER', 'BUILTBYTIER3COMMANDER', 'BUILTBYTIER4COMMANDER', 'UEF', }

So the experimental can build by Tech3 Engineer (including subcommanders) and Tier3+4 ACU's (Tech upgrade 2 or 3)

BlackSensualist wrote:
T3 hydrocarbons were actually more expensive than T3 Pgens and took longer to build.

Tech3 UEF Energygenerator:
Masscost: 3240
Buildtime: 02:01
EnergyOutput: 2500

Tech3 Bo Hydrocarbon
Masscost 3000
Buildtime: 01:28
EnergyOutput: 3000

Also if i look at the latest changelog:
http://content.faforever.com/patchnotes/3704.html
T3 Pgens wheren't changed.

Maybe i missunderstand you but the Hydro is cheaper, faster to build and has more energyoutput.

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 25 Jun 2019, 07:32

Re: Blackops Project Info 5/25/2012

2019-06-24T21:11:13+02:00

I noticed some problems, probably because of incompatibility with the latest patch. For instance, T3 engineers were able to build all experimentals, when I was under the impression that you had to build a quantum gate and then build sACU before you could build experimentals. Another thing I noticed was that the cost and build time for certain buildings was incongruent with their role - T3 hydrocarbons were actually more expensive than T3 Pgens and took longer to build.

It's still playable but there are an abundance of little issues like this.

Statistics: Posted by BlackSensualist — 24 Jun 2019, 21:11