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Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-17T14:59:34+02:00

Here's my cast of all the games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udOPEIvXWVQ

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Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 17 May 2019, 14:59

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-17T09:23:39+02:00

YuriIvanov wrote:
Depends on how you think about it.
It was a record-breaking FAF tournament in audience interest and attendance. I made it exactly the way it needed to be done.
I guess you just wanted to see something different. There are always different opinions and I respect yours.
If there will be opportunity in the future, maybe I will do Seton's Kings with upper rating limit as you say it should be. But it will be not 4 hour tournament, more like 10 hours (2-day).
Cheers.

I would strongly advise not doing a 2 day tournament. “We will continue tomorrow or another time” is the biggest kiss of death for any tournament on FAF. It vastly increases the difficulties of a tournament for no real reason. Even something as “easy” as a 1v1 or 2v2 where few people need to be kept track of still leaves tourneys in limbo because a time that works for everyone can’t be found. A 4v4 will almost definitely be doomed to a totally anticlimactic end or just no end at all.

The only time multiple day tournaments work out as far as I can tell is when it’s a fairly small, reliable group left that are given a time period to play their games against one another rather than yet another set time to show up for. This happened for some LOTS games and some early final BO3 or BO5 tourney games in the past.

Statistics: Posted by FtXCommando — 17 May 2019, 09:23

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-17T09:14:12+02:00

It’s a “King of” tournament. Putting a max rating restriction kind of goes against the whole theme of the avatar. It’s supposed to have stacked teams duking it out in order to determine who has the best gameplay. Unfortunately that means the tourney was likely to max out at 4 contestable teams max, I’d say. Dark horses can still win the tournament as well, or at least provide upsets, particularly since it’s still a double elimination tournament rather than round robin.

The main unfortunate part is that the logistics of getting a team of 4 on the client at the same time to face another group of 4 are pretty ridiculous and kind of out of everyone’s hands. Sometimes things come up and teams get broken up, which was probably what led to the ‘disappointed’ feelings of this tournament more than anything. A rating restriction would somewhat assist in this as it would not lead to one stacked team being able to face off against 3 frankenstein teams, but it would also likely lead to less high rated players playing in the first place. Which, again, destroys the concept of the tourney theme.

If people want to host another tournament like this except WITH a rating restriction or team cap or whatever, they are more than able to do so with a “Prince of Seton’s” Avatar. Just let me know if anyone is up for hosting it.

Statistics: Posted by FtXCommando — 17 May 2019, 09:14

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-17T08:46:55+02:00

Hyalatoh wrote:
I havn't watch all the game tbh. But from those i've seen, i havn't seen any exalting game with suspens, comeback, game changer moove ...

First game between two lowest rated teams was going back and forth and had at least 1 comeback from each team.
Setons games are not really that breathtaking, so it was kinda expected that out of 6 games all would be pretty much regular games with extra tryhard and teamwork. Even in 95% balance setons games are decided in first 10-20 minutes, gameenders dont get constructed often. So in games where 1 team out of 2 always had 400+ rating lead the result was quite obvious from the start.

Statistics: Posted by HerzogGorky — 17 May 2019, 08:46

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-16T20:18:04+02:00

it was an epic tournament, thank you Yuri

Statistics: Posted by Mountain — 16 May 2019, 20:18

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T18:11:20+02:00

Whether it was poor, great, intriguing, exalting, whatever, always appreciate when someone takes time to host and put more money up for grabs.

$500 may not be all the money in the world, but i think as this community thrives and sustains, we will see $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 etc. as we become more able. Be ever-thankful for those capable of being generous.

I didn't watch much of it but Yuri is doing a phenomenal service here.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 15 May 2019, 18:11

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T17:35:28+02:00

Plasma_Wolf wrote:
If you haven't watched the whole tournament then you can't say it was poor.

I have seen a set of games filled with Air drops that decided the game well before the high eco game became a thing. It's a great change of pace compared to the regularly expected late-game Seton's.

I have only watch the game from the favorites. Maybe there was great things in other, but since they play only for participate and not to win i didnt gave much credit to those...
The T2 artie drop is basicly the most common moove if you dont want to go long eco game. Nothing extrodinary in my pov

Statistics: Posted by Hyalatoh — 15 May 2019, 17:35

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T17:28:44+02:00

It was a good tournament, the only problem was the absence of some players. Well done Yuri, please host more tournaments

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 15 May 2019, 17:28

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T17:28:26+02:00

If you haven't watched the whole tournament then you can't say it was poor.

I have seen a set of games filled with Air drops that decided the game well before the high eco game became a thing. It's a great change of pace compared to the regularly expected late-game Seton's.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 15 May 2019, 17:28

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T17:19:11+02:00

I havn't watch all the game tbh. But from those i've seen, i havn't seen any exalting game with suspens, comeback, game changer moove ...

Statistics: Posted by Hyalatoh — 15 May 2019, 17:19

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T17:10:29+02:00

Depends on how you think about it.
It was a record-breaking FAF tournament in audience interest and attendance. I made it exactly the way it needed to be done.
I guess you just wanted to see something different. There are always different opinions and I respect yours.
If there will be opportunity in the future, maybe I will do Seton's Kings with upper rating limit as you say it should be. But it will be not 4 hour tournament, more like 10 hours (2-day).
Cheers.

Statistics: Posted by YuriIvanov — 15 May 2019, 17:10

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T14:35:08+02:00

Poor tournament with poor games wih poor result.
I feel sad for the guy who gaves 500 dollars.
Basicly 2 teams had a chance to win farms yudi bh and petric won.

A rating cap around 7000-7500 /team would have made a much bigger, fun and undecided tournament.

Statistics: Posted by Hyalatoh — 15 May 2019, 14:35

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-15T13:32:36+02:00

So what happened?

Statistics: Posted by Endranii — 15 May 2019, 13:32

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-11T12:55:11+02:00

1 hour until the start

Statistics: Posted by YuriIvanov — 11 May 2019, 12:55

Re: Kings of Seton's Clutch ($500 & King title) (may 11th)

2019-05-11T10:54:02+02:00

3 hours until the start.

Statistics: Posted by YuriIvanov — 11 May 2019, 10:54