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Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2017-08-05T22:25:37+02:00

You did a fantastic and huge work on Nomads. This faction has its own identity !

Keep on

Statistics: Posted by Franck83 — 05 Aug 2017, 22:25

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T21:10:37+02:00

Well since there is action going on in the balance forum id does not seem to be balanced.
Not talking about big stuff, just minor tweaks.
See how much change has been done to all the races in the last years? Thats what i mean with not balanced.
And i think there will be some changes because if in any game something is totally balanced after it goes official...

not bad.

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 21:10

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T20:43:26+02:00

you might want to tell what you find not balanced?

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 24 Mar 2013, 20:43

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T18:50:08+02:00

dude that post was not about if the nomads are balanced but why its hard to balance the nomads.
and in my opinion they are not perfectly balanced. Actually nothing in FA is really perfectly balanced. But i think they really need some tweaks

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 18:50

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T17:56:30+02:00

I challenge you to prove me in replays that it's not balanced.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 24 Mar 2013, 17:56

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T17:49:26+02:00

without good balancing - not in standard faf
without being in standard faf - no good balancing
sucks eh ?

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 17:49

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T17:16:30+02:00

Nomads niper tanks and t1 arties can be countered by labs, I did it several times. But of course labs can be countered by tanks. It means nomads need tanks not just sniper tanks+arties.
There are much less Nomads competitive Nomads games played now that it is open beta than when it was close beta. Strange world!

Statistics: Posted by pip — 24 Mar 2013, 17:16

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T17:08:27+02:00

I have so far seen about 2 or 3 nomads games in like 3 weeks.
and 1 of them was not even launched.
And btw when you say tank destroyers can be easily countered by labs. That might be proven by replays, but thats also just thinking.
You can easily get that idea. so not every estimation that has not been proven in replays yet is irreal bullshit.
just as anybody can say "hey labs are propably a good counter against slow deployables with low rof and high overkill" without ever having played a nomads game you can say other things like "the emp tank might be a good counter to a few t3 units"

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 17:08

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T16:57:47+02:00

Hundreds, if not a thousand Nomads games have been played the last year and a half.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 24 Mar 2013, 16:57

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T16:48:09+02:00

That were just estimations from my opinion. not a final judgement
You know its pretty hard getting a nomad game, especially without everyone playing nomads? i would up for a 1n1 right now.
how about you rename the mod to The nomads: faf 5th faction beta.
Than its not a random mod by some guys anymore but players see thats its actively supported.
only 10% of players hang around in the forums and actually know whats going on.
I am trying to help with the balancing.
You cant balance the game without estimating whats going to happen if nomads mod is barely played like that. An early t3 unit appears very rarely and you propably need 2 to 3 games to check if emp tanks are really not op or totally op against early t3. so basically it would take a long time until that can actually get balanced.
So how about trying to balance as much as possible stated on data and experience in usal games?
And for a new faction I'd rather make them weak and slowly buff them until they are balanced.
otherwise players could instantly get butthurt.

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 16:48

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T16:29:00+02:00

I suggest you to play more than 2 games before making final judgements and also to play against real players in order to check if you can really abuse what you think you can abuse. We will be sure to watch your replays and use the data for later adjusments. Thanks for the feedback.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 24 Mar 2013, 16:29

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2013-03-24T16:09:31+02:00

if something is emp'd and the duration is half over, and then it gets emp'd again, it is emp'd for the full duration again right?
because you definetly need to remove that since 2 emp tanks are able to block any unit.
early t3 could become useless. just build a few emp tanks and nail that loyalist or whatever down (lol i hope loyalists dont have emp prtection that would awkward).
also titans or harbingers lose a hield advantage. the emp tank is also a t2 shield disruptor.
and as someone else said before, the t3 heavy tank seems to be really strong.
Tank destroyers:
Counter them with labs?
If you need to build useless labs just to kill a few tank destroyers... that sucks. especially if the enemy has a few medium tanks to eat up those labs.
And for experimental... okay, give a race a megalith, a monkeylord, a fatboy a mavor and an additional transport that you can stick your monkeylord onto.
I would suggest no transport ghetto gunship and either remove the missile tank or the super heavy t4 tank. having all the possibilities that other races most of the time only have 1 or 2 of is a bit very strong.
For example: If any races t4 arsenal is replaced with its blackops mod t4 arsenal that would be unbalanced

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 24 Mar 2013, 16:09

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2012-12-23T20:54:55+02:00

You can counter them with : artilleries, labs, bombers, ACU weapon upgrade, or anything that will make the sniper tanks move. But the best strat is to send scouts forward, o that the sniper tanks waste their shots, then move in with your units while they reload. It's good to have a few labs in your army so that they can approach sniper tanks faster.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 23 Dec 2012, 20:54

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2012-12-23T18:39:10+02:00

you have to make and explanation how to counter/use snipertanks before the open beta or you will cause much rage

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 23 Dec 2012, 18:39

Re: Nomad Units, Full Overview.

2012-12-11T13:43:30+02:00

Yes whe found out some intresting things to discuss about

Statistics: Posted by killhard — 11 Dec 2012, 13:43